bah off of the DC topic its time for me to post some gold if no one has already
Human 15Barbarian/25Blackguard
goal stats is 21 str 10 dex 21 con 8 wis 13 int 8 chr
feats goal is power attack knockdown cleave great cleave improve knockdown skill focus intimidate weapon focus greatsword improve critical greatsword epic fiend epic skill focus intimidate mighty rage terifying rage great stregnth I great stregnth II great stregnth III great stregnth IIII overwhelming crit devastating crit
creating an ending strenght of 25
if no one has figured out what this build was meant for which i believe is imposible its for terrifying rage one of the most underestimated feats that ive seen no one use which is a big shame with this every hit would be a sneak attack and cause mayhem to every foe also trust me you'll be needing the epic fiend to help you chase every sucker down also the feats that are geared towards intimidate is not to be left out a 14 extra on the DC check is granted by it making sure no one can resist it only those minor paladins which will suffer from your smite good and if thats not enough may i add your going to have maxed out strength from buffs only thnx to the blackgaurds bullstrength
this build is SOOOO good i actually have my code name for it RAGING BACKSTABBING LUNATIC
Note i tried against almost every class and im always the victor and dont worry about those goody two shoe paladins those smite evil is useless against your unbelievable life amount!
Edited By HolyBeef on 02/20/04 01:37:53
Edited By Cinnabar Din on 02/27/08 17:08
Comments by Jushak Brimstone:
This build, if life is maxed, has a respectable HP of 630 (870 if if using +12 worth CON enhancers) Which definitely ain't bad. If Dwarf would be used instead of human (which I think has been used) it would be 670, thought Prestige Class bug would give you EXP penalty after the BG passes the Barbarian levels. This is avoided with human and half-elf.
EDIT: Forgot to congratulate HolyBeef for making great build, also saving me the trouble of posting it myself (I was just about to build this build myself, but HolyBeef was faster... ) _________________ "Lavamancers use three aspects of magic to make a golem: Transmutation; to mold the golem, Necromancery; to bind a soul to control the golem, and Evocation; to blast the damn thing on fire." - Jushak Firestone - Grim Lavamancer
Revised/Corrected version by HolyBeef:
Human 16Barbarian/24Blackguard
goal stats is 21 str 10 dex 21 con 8 wis 13 int 8 chr
feats goal is power attack knockdown cleave great cleave improve knockdown weapon focus greatsword improve critical greatsword epic fiend epic skill focus intimidate mighty rage terifying rage great stregnth I great stregnth II great stregnth III great stregnth IIII overwhelming crit Devastating Crit
WOOOPS rechecked build there was no skill focus intimidate and it was 16barb 24BG sorry ill make sure theres no more mistake next time i was a bit tired you know check the time i posted the message
and besides 1st lvl spell who cares its a mage no shield KNOCKdown oh looky here a person immune to fear pfff most likely low AC since the item is also going to take a chunk slot powerattack/mighty rage/Smite good or again KNOCKDOWN
and a Pala/CoT/WM wow a skythe user must keep up with buffs also skythe two-handed no shield always good... critical SMITEGOOD dead cause i know they got no life
Edited By HolyBeef on 02/20/04 10:57:52
Dont you need a Epic Barbarian (lvl20) for the Rage?
I'd change the hole dev crit thing and get DMG reduction to like 9 or so..
So let me get this straight. When you activate terrifying rage an opponent has to make a will save against your Intimidate DC which for simplicity sake we will just say is 43. So pretty much the opponent has to beat 43 + 1d20 or else be feared for a few rounds. It seems to me that it's sorta the same thing as a Dragon's aura. If immunity to fear protects against this wouldn't any spell that grants mind immunity such as clarity work also? Also how long does the terrifying rage last and how many times can you activate it? Intimidate is a Chrasima based skill so you might want to boost your Char a little.
Terrifying rage sounds neat but I need to know exactly how it works and its reliability before I build a character focusing on it.
So let me get this straight. When you activate terrifying rage an opponent has to make a will save against your Intimidate DC which for simplicity sake we will just say is 43. So pretty much the opponent has to beat 43 + 1d20 or else be feared for a few rounds. It seems to me that it's sorta the same thing as a Dragon's aura. If immunity to fear protects against this wouldn't any spell that grants mind immunity such as clarity work also? Also how long does the terrifying rage last and how many times can you activate it? Intimidate is a Chrasima based skill so you might want to boost your Char a little.
Terrifying rage sounds neat but I need to know exactly how it works and its reliability before I build a character focusing on it.
You might want to look at my build.
Screaming Barbarian
It made effective use of Terrifying rage, although there is second version of that build but I never released it because it is strong against many characters and most of the time the other characters will fail will saving throw against the fear.
For example, if you were a sneaking character, you can sneak in but you will be immediately be affected by the terrifying rage aura and it will allow the character know where you are and kill you with one blow, ie; devastating critical.
Anyway... Charisma is not really needed... just by having max intimidate is enough. And for every time you activate your rage ability, the terrifying rage will be activated automatically. It is extremely effective against those who have very low will, but those with high will can still be affected by it but have higher chances of avoiding effect as long they move out of the radius of the rage(the longer they stay in the radius the more chances they will be affected), other than those who are immune to fear effects.
I hope this post has made sense...
Anuis _________________ - Epic Character Builders Guild
Terrifying rage sounds neat but I need to know exactly how it works and its reliability before I build a character focusing on it.
Here's the feat description from the NWN Grimoire: "Terrifying Rage Type of Feat: (Epic) General Prerequisite: Epic Barbarian, Intimidate 25 Specifics: While the barbarian is raging, any enemy that comes close to him must make a Will save opposed by the barbarian’s Intimidate check or become panicked for 1d6 rounds. Opponents with up to twice the barbarian’s HD will not flee but will receive a –2 penalty to attack and saving throw rolls. Creatures with more then 2x the barbarian’s HD are not affected by the rage. Use: Automatic while in rage."
Kaliban
Edited By Kaliban99 on 12/14/04 03:07
My master of scare tactics build uses terrifying rage as well. It works very well. I have to rebuild it to test ont he guild servers though for giggles. I think the book is wrong about the needing epic bard though. I'll have to double check. I think you just need to be epic. _________________ Come visit the Epic Builders Guild for all the character info you could ever want or need: Click Here
I think it's cool when people actually post the buil progress and test the build before posting.
How do you get devestating critical with only 21 strength?
Well, I don't speak Gibberish fluently , but I think at the bottom of the first post it says ending strength 25.
Kaliban
YEAH! finally a build to out-do the rest... when are you guys gonna do a lvling guide? are you guys asleep? this is a really good build i would definately play. i wish you guys would have a lvling guide tho! thx, RyNo
Ok, I just did a few tests with this build trying to come up with some way to all the listed feats. And I must say, the results I got are way beyond my comprehension.
I started with taking 10 lvls of Barbarian to get Cleave, Bab 6+ and 5 points in Hide. Then 22 lvls of Blackguard and took all the remaining pre-epic feats and boost both my strength and constitution to 21+. Now at lvl 33, I took my 11th Barbarian lvl and was waiting for taking Mighty Rage (prereq: Con 21, Str 21 and Greater Rage). Well, for some reason it was not choosable. So I took another of the Epic Feats and continued taking Barbarian lvls all the way until I was 14 Barb/ 22 Blackguard. Then I started taking Bg lvls again until lvl 39 when I again took Barbarian. Would you know it, still no Mighty Rage. BUT, both Terrifying and Thundering Rage were choosable. Odd? Yes. Both of these feats are supposed to need 21 Barbarian lvls...
Conclusion: Don't trust the manual...
Yes, I have messed around with this build somewhat myself. You need to have 21 lvs of Barb for Mighty Rage, even though it never mentions that in the manual. I had managed to get in all the feats the original poster was talking about, well, at least what I thought he was talking about. I tested out with normal plate and wep in Novice to Epic Character Builder. I wish I woulda saved everything, but I wasn't really that impressed with the overall character, so didnt bother saving. I believe I ended up 25 Barb/15 BG to get all the feats though. Should mention I didn't get Dev Crit til right at the end either. _________________ If everyone is thinking alike, then someone is failing to think.
Yes, I have messed around with this build somewhat myself. You need to have 21 lvs of Barb for Mighty Rage, even though it never mentions that in the manual. I had managed to get in all the feats the original poster was talking about, well, at least what I thought he was talking about. I tested out with normal plate and wep in Novice to Epic Character Builder. I wish I woulda saved everything, but I wasn't really that impressed with the overall character, so didnt bother saving. I believe I ended up 25 Barb/15 BG to get all the feats though. Should mention I didn't get Dev Crit til right at the end either.
Yes i have done the same thing as you, i noticed you HAVE to be 25Barb/15BlackGuard to get Mighty Rage. I was pretty pissed at this build because i tested it in HOTU Chapter 1. I did all of the leveling right there and thought to test Terrifying Rage. I rested, and the Drow Asassin showed up and i activated my rage. I wasn't impressed with the results. The Drow was only affected by it half of the time. The Drow was only lvl 15 (by my guess) and if it didn't work half of the time, what real good is this build? The Terrifying Rage MAKES this build supposedly, without it, what good would the Blackguard lvls do? (for sneak attack) and if it cant affect a level 15, how is it supposed to affect anyone lets say in PvP. Oh Well, it was a great concept, i can give you that. Peace- RyNo
I was just searching for BG builds and I stumbled across this one, Its quite similar to something im working on at the moment, but anyway, there is a reason for this post:
Ive managed to take terrifying rage feat with only 17 levels of barbarian in epic levels but not with 8 barbarian levels in epic levels, so it would seem that the actual prerequsite for terrifying rage is the greater rage feat.
I've tested it quite a bit. Terrifying rage is available at lvl 15 barbarian as long as you're already an epic character. I think, but in this case can't remember if I've tested it, that thundering rage is available at the same point. Reason being, I think thundering rage is a waste on most servers as it is an 'on top of crit' damage. Back to the point, I'm wondering if the person who tested their terrifying rage had enough points in intimidate.
, but I think at the bottom of the first post it says ending strength 25.
