Paladin29/Sorc1/RDD10 by Bwookie - Epic Character Builder's Guild

Melee build with an AB of 76 and a Dev Crit DC of 48 naked and buffed. No XP Penalty neither.

Race: Human
Class: 29 Paladin/1 Sorceror/10 RDD

Starting Stats
Str 18
Dex 10
Con 8
Wis 14
Int 11
Cha 11
Final Stats
Str 42
Dex 10
Con 10
Wis 14
Int 13
Cha 13

Lvl Progression
1-28 Paladin, +7 Str, Feats Taken: Power Attack, Cleave, Knockdown, Great Cleave, Weapon Focus: Scimitar or Rapier, Improved Critical: Scimitar or Rapier, Blind Fight, Toughness, Overwhelming Critical, Devestating Critical, Great Strength 1-3
29 Sorceror
30-39 Red Dragon Disciple, +2 Str, Feats Taken: Great Strength 5,6, Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar or Rapier or Imp Knockdown.
40 Paladin +1 Str, Epic Prowess

Skills:
Tumble: 20
Discipline: 43
Taunt: 43
Bunch of other skills.

Just in closing, this character was extremely easy to lvl and is very effective in PvM. Originally I had him as a Half-Orc but as a Human you sacrifice 1 AB from the loss of 2 strength, but you suffer no XP Penalty. With the Paladin buffs lasting a long time he is extremely effective in Combat, and his naked AC is 18 with tumble and the RDD nothing to sneeze at as a warrior, since with equipment it isn't difficult at all to push ac into the 70s with HoTU goodies.

So what do you guys think? Any room for improvement?

Quote: Posted 04/11/04 12:14:55 (GMT) -- billb0

Melee build with an AB of 76 and a Dev Crit DC of 48 naked and buffed. No XP Penalty neither.

Race: Human
Class: 29 Paladin/1 Sorceror/10 RDD

Starting Stats
Str 18
Dex 10
Con 8
Wis 14
Int 11
Cha 11
Final Stats
Str 42
Dex 10
Con 10
Wis 14
Int 13
Cha 13

Lvl Progression
1-28 Paladin, +7 Str, Feats Taken: Power Attack, Cleave, Knockdown, Great Cleave, Weapon Focus: Scimitar or Rapier, Improved Critical: Scimitar or Rapier, Blind Fight, Toughness, Overwhelming Critical, Devestating Critical, Great Strength 1-3
29 Sorceror
30-39 Red Dragon Disciple, +2 Str, Feats Taken: Great Strength 5,6, Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar or Rapier or Imp Knockdown.
40 Paladin +1 Str, Epic Prowess

Skills:
Tumble: 20
Discipline: 43
Taunt: 43
Bunch of other skills.

Just in closing, this character was extremely easy to lvl and is very effective in PvM. Originally I had him as a Half-Orc but as a Human you sacrifice 1 AB from the loss of 2 strength, but you suffer no XP Penalty. With the Paladin buffs lasting a long time he is extremely effective in Combat, and his naked AC is 18 with tumble and the RDD nothing to sneeze at as a warrior, since with equipment it isn't difficult at all to push ac into the 70s with HoTU goodies.

So what do you guys think? Any room for improvement?

I think this build is good, and I would definately go for the human option myself with starting stats:

Str 16
Dex 08
Con 12
Wis 14
Int 12
Cha 14

This would finish at:

Str 34
Dex 08
Con 14
Wis 14
Int 14
Cha 16

(before Great Str feats which as described above would give 40 Str)
Very well rounded char with a useful Charisma bonus for Paladin abilites and huge str for everything else. Also quite a lot of HPs. Another alternative is to switch Sorc for Bard to get a small bonus from the Bard Song...and if taken at level 29 you can pump Tumble to 30 easily for a +6 AC. Only problem with that is that you cant go Pally / bard

Bard is Any lawful and Pally has to be Lawful good. So that throws ur last improvement out the window!

Quote: Posted 04/02/06 17:53:31 (GMT) -- smartie2003

Only problem with that is that you cant go Pally / bard

Bard is Any lawful and Pally has to be Lawful good. So that throws ur last improvement out the window!

Frankly, that's not right. First of all, Bard is any non-lawful, and second, alignment shifts are often possible. Check the OCs, dammit!
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"And one calculates time from the dies nefastus on which this fatality arose – from the first day of Christianity! – Why not rather from its last? – From today? – Revaluation of all values!" Guys, check the age of the original post. It's pointless to flog a horse that's been dead for so long ... It was from back when people simply didn't know any better ...

-Christina! Bard can add 2 ac better saves with short song maybe some umd to use scrolls, but you'll lose the benefits of true strike which is in my opinion more important in that build ( true strike , ikd , crits then dev

). With your stats you could choose divine shield pre epic to add some ac on your build.

He'll have hard time vs hipser or invisible enemies but in pvm like vs melee build he'll rock with hight ab and holy avenger spell on weapon and a dever is always dangerous (you can roll a 1 at any time

).
There's many pali sorc rdd here ( got one

) maybe for pvp a better dev dc could be better.

Nice build cheers.

Quote: Posted 04/02/06 20:46:29 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

Guys, check the age of the original post. It's pointless to flog a horse that's been dead for so long ... It was from back when people simply didn't know any better ...

-Christina!

Indeed, but since this smartie chose to bump this thread with a faulty statement I felt obliged to correct him, in order to avoid people getting confused over it

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"And one calculates time from the dies nefastus on which this fatality arose – from the first day of Christianity! – Why not rather from its last? – From today? – Revaluation of all values!"

Quote: Posted 04/03/06 09:31:10 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ
Indeed, but since this smartie chose to bump this thread with a faulty statement I felt obliged to correct him, in order to avoid people getting confused over it

Hmm, there are a few builds I'd love to bump too, especially that 'elder vampire' one which has an error, and I just can't seem to fix it.

Only fixed it once by accident..

We should have a bump-day or something.

.

-Christina!

Quote: Posted 04/03/06 14:47:57 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

Hmm, there are a few builds I'd love to bump too, especially that 'elder vampire' one which has an error, and I just can't seem to fix it. Only fixed it once by accident..

We should have a bump-day or something. .

-Christina!

I have discussed about that earlier (why has Griz stopped being a regular at ECB

Quote: Sent 03/06/06 17:55:00 (GMT) by FinneousPJ
Quote: Sent 03/06/06 16:37:48 (GMT) by grizzled_dwarflord

Hey Finn, what the hell is up with these replies in the Epic Guild 2 years after the last post? And then asked in such a way that the build was only yesterday? And then on top of that they are not even remotely correct.

Is it just me, or has this been a trend of late?
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Now that you mention it, there seem to be numerous old topics brought up from the sleep of dead, yes. I do not think it's spam, though, if that's what you're implying. I believe it's because the new people play around with the search engine and happen to stumble to a two-year-old build and decide to make a good first impression by correcting some unnoticed mistake (or so they believe ) They probably just fail to understand the original post is so old.

Actually, our guild is supposed to act as an archive for builds, so bringing up the old topics shouldn't be frowned upon as heavily as in some other forum. It is good people ask questions, no? They learn better when I tell them they're wrong

So, I don't think it's a bad thing if we correct mistakes, even if the original build was posted two years ago; this guild's an archive for builds.
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"And one calculates time from the dies nefastus on which this fatality arose – from the first day of Christianity! – Why not rather from its last? – From today? – Revaluation of all values!"

Edited By FinneousPJ on 04/03/06 14:59

Quote: Posted 04/03/06 14:58:32 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 04/03/06 14:47:57 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

Hmm, there are a few builds I'd love to bump too, especially that 'elder vampire' one which has an error, and I just can't seem to fix it. Only fixed it once by accident..

We should have a bump-day or something. .

-Christina!

I have discussed about that earlier (why has Griz stopped being a regular at ECB ):
Quote: Sent 03/06/06 17:55:00 (GMT) by FinneousPJ
Quote: Sent 03/06/06 16:37:48 (GMT) by grizzled_dwarflord

Hey Finn, what the hell is up with these replies in the Epic Guild 2 years after the last post? And then asked in such a way that the build was only yesterday? And then on top of that they are not even remotely correct.

Is it just me, or has this been a trend of late?
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE!!

Now that you mention it, there seem to be numerous old topics brought up from the sleep of dead, yes. I do not think it's spam, though, if that's what you're implying. I believe it's because the new people play around with the search engine and happen to stumble to a two-year-old build and decide to make a good first impression by correcting some unnoticed mistake (or so they believe ) They probably just fail to understand the original post is so old.

Actually, our guild is supposed to act as an archive for builds, so bringing up the old topics shouldn't be frowned upon as heavily as in some other forum. It is good people ask questions, no? They learn better when I tell them they're wrong

So, I don't think it's a bad thing if we correct mistakes, even if the original build was posted two years ago; this guild's an archive for builds.

Alright! I shall bump the 'elder vampire' build and see if something happens!

also because it's a pretty unique build, and it's been bugging me for months now
-Christina!

Quote: Posted 04/03/06 14:58:32 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 04/03/06 14:47:57 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

Hmm, there are a few builds I'd love to bump too, especially that 'elder vampire' one which has an error, and I just can't seem to fix it. Only fixed it once by accident..

We should have a bump-day or something. .

-Christina!

I have discussed about that earlier (why has Griz stopped being a regular at ECB ):
Quote: Sent 03/06/06 17:55:00 (GMT) by FinneousPJ
Quote: Sent 03/06/06 16:37:48 (GMT) by grizzled_dwarflord

Hey Finn, what the hell is up with these replies in the Epic Guild 2 years after the last post? And then asked in such a way that the build was only yesterday? And then on top of that they are not even remotely correct.

Is it just me, or has this been a trend of late?
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE!!

Now that you mention it, there seem to be numerous old topics brought up from the sleep of dead, yes. I do not think it's spam, though, if that's what you're implying. I believe it's because the new people play around with the search engine and happen to stumble to a two-year-old build and decide to make a good first impression by correcting some unnoticed mistake (or so they believe ) They probably just fail to understand the original post is so old.

Actually, our guild is supposed to act as an archive for builds, so bringing up the old topics shouldn't be frowned upon as heavily as in some other forum. It is good people ask questions, no? They learn better when I tell them they're wrong

So, I don't think it's a bad thing if we correct mistakes, even if the original build was posted two years ago; this guild's an archive for builds.

Just don't bump anything by that one individual who is no longer welcome here. I think you all know who I mean...

Quote: Posted 04/04/06 16:36:24 (GMT) -- Ubernachtung

Just don't bump anything by that one individual who is no longer welcome here. I think you all know who I mean...

Me?

I resemble that remark!

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Quote: Posted 04/04/06 16:36:24 (GMT) -- Ubernachtung
Just don't bump anything by that one individual who is no longer welcome here. I think you all know who I mean...

Which one individual would that be? Only one I found unwelcomed would be TyrPaladin

and I've read through almost all of the builds (with the exception of DwD builds, and things that looked wierd, Wiz38/paladin1/monk1

)

-Christina!

Quote: Posted 04/04/06 17:34:42 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

[...] and I've read through almost all of the builds (with the exception of [...] things that looked wierd [...])

-Christina!

Damn, so you've missed all of my builds?

Quote: Posted 04/04/06 17:34:42 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

Which one individual would that be? Only one I found unwelcomed would be TyrPaladin and I've read through almost all of the builds (with the exception of DwD builds, and things that looked wierd, Wiz38/paladin1/monk1 )

-Christina!

Now you've done it! Just like Voldemort in the Harry Potter series, you should never speak (or type) She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named... Woe unto us all!!!
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It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!

Quote: Posted 04/04/06 19:38:53 (GMT) -- Cinnabar Din

Quote: Posted 04/04/06 17:34:42 (GMT) -- MysticalBlueCats

Which one individual would that be? Only one I found unwelcomed would be TyrPaladin and I've read through almost all of the builds (with the exception of DwD builds, and things that looked wierd, Wiz38/paladin1/monk1 )

-Christina!

Now you've done it! Just like Voldemort in the Harry Potter series, you should never speak (or type) She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named... Woe unto us all!!!

Ahhh! Run awayyyyyyyyy! Hi, everyone. Sorry, was just searching the builds to see what, and if so how, RDD/PAL/Sorc has been dealth with by other members in past, and ....

*hmmm - Tyr, eh? (That Tyr: such a busy g*d these days, such a shame that some of his followers may use this as an excuse to go astray

anyway, I see that Pal/RDD/Sorc has been done, but as yet might be another angle . . . we'll see

Cheers, folks - (and, uh, that's not TyrPaladin, just a Tyr who happens to be looking at a Paladin build (sorry, but really, couldn't help the irony)

Edited By Robert Tyr on 06/01/06 21:45