I gave an earlier idea of how I would do a ranger/assassin but here it is in full detail. The first variant is the ranger/assassin, the second is a ranger/rogue. Feel free to critique as you would like.
I'd go with a panther companion on both of these builds. The hit points are kind of low but okay (what do you expect from an elf?). Both builds have low saves, but this is unavoidable. This character has serious feat deficiency but should be okay. I went for maces because I didn't have the feats to spend on improved criticals and very few enemies have bludgeoning resistance. The second build also has an XP penalty.
Shadow of the Underdark V.1
Race Elf (Subrace: Drow)
Alignment Any Evil
Base Attribute STR 14 DEX 17 CON 10 WIS 14 INT 14 CHA 8
Final Level Distribution Assassin 17/Ranger 21/Shadow Dancer 2
Attribute Bonuses All 10 go to Dexterity
Feats Level 1: Weapon Finesse, Favoured Enemy (Undead) Level 3: Power Attack Level 5: Favoured Enemy (Construct) Level 6: Improved Power Attack Level 9: Weapon Focus (Mace) Level 10: Favoured Enemy (Outsider) Level 12: Dodge Level 15: Mobility, Favoured Enemy (Dragon) Level 18: Weapon Focus (Longbow) Level 20: Favoured Enemy (Elemental) Level 21: Epic Weapon Focus (Mace) Level 24: Epic Weapon Focus (Longbow) Level 27: Epic Prowess Level 30: Great Dexterity I Level 33: Great Dexterity II Level 36: Great Dexterity III, Armor Skin Level 39: Bane of Enemies
Final Attributes STR 14 DEX 30 CON 10 WIS 14 INT 14 CHA 8
Final Saves Fortitude 22 Reflexes 26 Will 18
AB and Damage
(No buffs, two normal maces) 42/37/32/27 2+1D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X2) 42/37 1+1D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X2) (44/39/34/29 7+3D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) Vs. Favoured Enemy 44/39 6+3D6 (+9D6 Death Attack))
(No buffs, normal composite longbow) 46/41/36/31 2+1D8 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X3) (48/43/38/33 7+1D8+2D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X3) Vs. Favoured Enemy)
(+12 STR, +12 DEX, Improved Power Attack, True Strike, two +5 Maces) 58/53/48/43 23+1D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X2) 58/53 19+1D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X2) (58/53/48/43 28+3D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X2) Vs. Favoured Enemy 58/53 24+3D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X2))
(+12 STR, +12 DEX, True Strike, +8 Mighty Longbow) 72/67/62/57 8+1D8 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X3) (72/67/62/57 13+1D8+2D6 (+9D6 Death Attack) (20 X3) Vs. Favoured Enemy)
AC 30 (No items, no Buffs)
Hit Points 328 (Max Every Level)
Final Skillpoints 262 Discipline 42 Hide 43 Move Silently 43 Lockpick 11 Spellcraft 20 Tumble 40 Use Magic Devices 43
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Shadow of the Underdark V.2
Race Elf (Subrace: Drow)
Alignment Any Evil
Base Attribute STR 14 DEX 17 CON 10 WIS 14 INT 14 CHA 8
Feats: 1: Weapon Finess, Favored: Human 3: Dodge 5: favored: Halfling 6: Knockdown 9: Imp. Knockdown 10: Favored: Elves 12: Imp Crit: Handaxe 15: Weapon Focus: Handaxe, Favored: Half Orc 18: Mobility 20: Favored: Dwarves 21: Great Dex I 24: Great Dex II 27: Epic Weapon Focus: Handaxe 30: Epic Prowess 31: Imp. Evasion 33: Blind Fight 34: Defensive Roll 36: Epic Dodge 37: Crippling Strike 39: Bane of Enemys
Skills: Raise Hide, Move Silent, Discipline on Ranger Levels. Tumble, Hide, Move Silent on Rogue/SD levels, you'll have enough extra points to cap almost 2 other skills, I reccomend one being Set Traps but its all personal choice.
Ending Stats:
STR:6 DEX:32 CON:10 WIS:14 INT:14 CHA:8
Saves: Fort 23 / Reflex 28 / 18 Will Unbuffed. AB: 41 Holding 2 Generic Handaxe's. 45 With 1. (+1 from Halfling Racial which i dont belive shows on char sheet so they're 42/46 Respictivly) Self Buffs will add another +1 from Aid.
AC: 29 Naked (30 with Halfing Bonus again not showing on char sheet i belive)
9D6 Sneak Attacks.
Hide is 69 Self Buffed, +4 While outdoors from Ranger Class. (43 Base + 12 From Dex + 14 from Buffs +2 Halfling racial)
Move Silent is 59 Buffed, and again +4 while outdoors.
The build is heavily reliant on HiPS, and excels on servers where Trueseeing has been altered to 3.5 Compliance.
Just so you know, this is what we call OP sabotage!!! If you really have your idea, it is ok to make your own post! i'm guessin mith wont mind, as this is from 2004 (over 2 years old).
Quote: Posted 08/29/06 18:48:32 (GMT) -- Jibekn
Made a build similar to your second one. Few minor differences, the main one is that its based for PvP, yet playable from 1-40
Rng21/Sd1/Rog19....
I would say that the major difference here is you take 41 levels while the OP sticks with the stock 40. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
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And a ranger with 6 starting STR isn't really playable for quite a while, unless you play in smurfsville.... _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Wow, the first time this build gets commented on is when someone else posts a build similar to it. Not that I mind, but you would be better off posting it as a separate build so we can comment on it properly and without confusion. It isn't one of my better builds and has its problems, let this build return to its silent slumber _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Wow, the first time this build gets commented on is when someone else posts a build similar to it. Not that I mind, but you would be better off posting it as a separate build so we can comment on it properly and without confusion. It isn't one of my better builds and has its problems, let this build return to its silent slumber
Yeah, typoed the 19 there, was supposed to be rog18, was the first build i posted, and was just tryin to follow the rules search and if its a similar build, post as a reply ect...
And a ranger with 6 starting STR isn't really playable for quite a while, unless you play in smurfsville....
Ive been playin it fine.. started from level 1, and is now lvl 12, Had it been a rogue, or any other class that couldnt grab finess at lvl 1, i would agree.
Wow, the first time this build gets commented on is when someone else posts a build similar to it. Not that I mind, but you would be better off posting it as a separate build so we can comment on it properly and without confusion. It isn't one of my better builds and has its problems, let this build return to its silent slumber
Yeah, typoed the 19 there, was supposed to be rog18, was the first build i posted, and was just tryin to follow the rules search and if its a similar build, post as a reply ect...
I can respect that, but if you need to post an entire build instead of a few pointers as to a variant, you're better off posting a new build. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Quote: Posted 08/30/06 05:08:58 (GMT) -- Jibekn
Yeah, typoed the 19 there, was supposed to be rog18, was the first build i posted, and was just tryin to follow the rules search and if its a similar build, post as a reply ect...
Actually, this isnt a rule. It is, infact, RUDE! See, when someone posts a build,it is THEIR idea, not anyone else'. If you have comments on the build, fine. TO post a different build is not commenting. I would be interestd in finding out where you heard this "rule". It may be a relic of times long ago. Over time, we have determined that this is not the thing to do. But what do i know... i have only been here a few years, and i am not a mod _________________
Quote: • A build which ends up to be the same as an already exsisting one a few minor tweaks apart should not be posted. Such tweaks should instead be suggested as a reply post in the original build thread.
Don't know if that's the case here, but he appears to be following the rule. Poor Mith, he just wants this thread to die. I feel your pain, brother. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
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From the revised rles in the announcement at the top of the page:
Quote: D. It must be an original build
• The build must stand out compared to similar ones because of some significant differences. • Similar builds should be researched using pulse cap’s search engine and browsing the most recent builds that have not made it yet into the search engine. • Links to similar builds must be given in the build’s post. •A build which ends up to be the same as an already exsisting one a few minor tweaks apart should not be posted. Such tweaks should instead be suggested as a reply post in the original build thread.
This is because it's useless to have duplicate builds not to say it doesn't credit the OP of the first build. Also, the rule means to go and suggest the tweaks in the OP not to post the "tweaked" build in its entirety. Thank you for your attention.
EDIT: to be clear, what we want to avoid is for example a caster build reposted with Maximize spell taken instead of Empower in the OP, or a melee build with Disarm/ID taken instead of Expertise/IE and so on. If your "new" build is the same as an already posted build go and suggest those few minow tweaks in the OP (like: "you know I think expertise would serve you better because..." or "IMO this build could make great use of Disarm, if you just give up..." or "nice build, myself I prefer maximize spell over empower cause I like my damage output to be consistent..."... you get it). If you think that you managed to get a build which, although similar, is still sufficiently different from others already posted go and post it, but put in links to similar builds. If a moderator thinks the build is too similar to an already exsisting one, the post will be moved to Build Request Forum and you will be invited to post your tweaks suggestions in the OP of the elder build.
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