Whelp, I've never posted before so though I might as well have a swing at it. I don't think I've seen this build anywhere on the NWN forums, but correct me if I'm wrong.
I designed this as a "holy warrior" type of their church, being able to wade into combat with even the most basic equipment and leave a severe dent.
* denotes a feat that isn't critical to the build and may be substituted as seen fit ** denotes a bonus feat used by CoT
Skill Increases: Concentration on Cleric and Paladin levels Discipline on Paladin and CoT levels Taunt on Paladin levels Spellcraft on Cleric levels 46 points for user to choose (recommened 20pts into tumble)
Stat Increases: Wisdom: 32, 36 Strength: Otherwise
The below is calculated with the this list of buffs, all minimums taken into account:
AB Buffs: Divine Wrath, War Domain, Bless, Divine Favour, Deafening Clang, Aid, Bull's Strength, Prayer, Greater Magic Weapon, Holy Weapon, Darkfire, Battletide, Aura of Vitality, Divine Power, Divine Might, Aura of Glory
AC Buffs: Magic Vestment (Shield), Shield of Faith, Magic Vestment (Armour), Divine Shield
Calculated AB breakdown: Basic AB 41 Divine Wrath 3 War domain 6 (4 from bonus, 2 from increased str) Bless 1 Divine Favour 5 Deafening Clang 1 Aid 1 Bull's Strength 1 (Minimum) Prayer 1 Grtr Mag Weap 5 Holy Weapon Nullified by Grtr Magic Weapon Battletide 2 Aura of Vit 2 (from +4 str) Divine Power 6
Total: +75/+70/+65/+60 However, this hits the AB cap, so attack pattern is +67/+67/+65/+60
Damage Calculation: Minimum Maximum Type Longsword 1 8 Physical Strength Mod 8 8 Physical Divine Wrath 3 3 Divine War domain 4 4 Bludgeoning War domain(Str) 2 2 Physical Divine Favour 5 5 Magical Deafening Clang 3 3 Sonic Bull's Strength 1 2 Physical Prayer 1 1 Slashing Grt Mag Weap 5 5 Physical Holy Weapon 1 6 Divine Darkfire 11 16 Fire Battletide 2 2 Magical Aura of Vit 2 2 Physical Divine Might 6 8 Divine
Totals: 55 75
In General: Advantages: - Considerable damage potential in melee - Can have buffs active for a long period (extend) - Does not gain bonuses for a cha based paladin build - Flexible to various occassions - Can cast all Paladin spells - Can cast upto level 8 Cleric spells
Disadvantages: - Low hitpoints (maximum: 420) - Some buffs are extremely short in duration - Low AC (a severe hinderance)
If I screwed up anywhere, please tell me, and any feedback welcome.
Edited By Soul Reaper on 05/23/04 08:49
I would be grateful for any comments anyone has on this build as it is similar to one I am planning (without Dev. Crit). I would also like to know about rearranging the Cleric levels, so I get them sooner. If possible, without ruining BAB, I'd also like to try and fit in more pre-epic Cleric levels as I'd really rather not wait until Epic levels before I can resurrect anyone. The PW I play on has an effective level cap of 30ish (there is no level cap but there are very, very few characters above level 30), so I want to try and get the most out of this before then. _________________ Thanks for the thesaurus you gave me, it makes me not write the same words over and over and over again
I would be grateful for any comments anyone has on this build as it is similar to one I am planning (without Dev. Crit). I would also like to know about rearranging the Cleric levels, so I get them sooner. If possible, without ruining BAB, I'd also like to try and fit in more pre-epic Cleric levels as I'd really rather not wait until Epic levels before I can resurrect anyone. The PW I play on has an effective level cap of 30ish (there is no level cap but there are very, very few characters above level 30), so I want to try and get the most out of this before then.
This build by Cinnabar Din has the exact same level split while getting more Cleric earlier in the build, it might help you with what you are trying to do. Click Here
Yeah, I found that after I posted here and it does seem more appropriate. Funny thing is that a search of Pal/CoT/Cleric only gave me this one, but a search of pure Paladin gave me Cinnabar's, I also recall another one being mentioned somewhere with the same split, but haven't found it using the search engine.
It's a shame most of the builds that turn up with Paladin in them only have 1-4 levels. _________________ Thanks for the thesaurus you gave me, it makes me not write the same words over and over and over again
Yeah, I found that after I posted here and it does seem more appropriate. Funny thing is that a search of Pal/CoT/Cleric only gave me this one, but a search of pure Paladin gave me Cinnabar's, I also recall another one being mentioned somewhere with the same split, but haven't found it using the search engine.
The only thing I don't like about these splits as that they're too split up. By the time you get all the spells that you really want, it's a bit too late, and even then there's not a lot of potency given the low caster level. I'd be tempted just to go straight up Paladin or Cleric, and then adding a few levels of something else to give him an edge.
Quote: It's a shame most of the builds that turn up with Paladin in them only have 1-4 levels.
There should be quite a few heavy Paladin builds that show up. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
Yeah, I found that after I posted here and it does seem more appropriate. Funny thing is that a search of Pal/CoT/Cleric only gave me this one, but a search of pure Paladin gave me Cinnabar's, I also recall another one being mentioned somewhere with the same split, but haven't found it using the search engine.
It's a shame most of the builds that turn up with Paladin in them only have 1-4 levels.
Hmm...I used the search engine for Pal/Cot/Cleric and it brought up quite a few builds, including Cinnabars. Do you have all the classes set at from levels 1 to level 40 on the search engine?
I'm thinking it must have been a bug of some sort because the first search I did of builds with 1-40 each of Pal/CoT/Cleric only gave me about 7 results, and this was the only one with more than 10 levels of Paladin. After doing a search with only Paladin as the search item it worked. And, about the large number of builds with low levels of Paladin, according to the search engine more than a quarter of builds with Paladin in them have only 1-5 levels (56/200), I guess the Paladin Immunities are attractive to some.
Anyway... What can be said about this build? There are a lot of builds I have found using the search engine have had no comments so it is hard to figure out if they're worth playing. I think I'll base my build more closely on Cinnabar's, but I'm still curious abut this one. _________________ N.O.M.A.N. National Organisation of Matrimonial Attorneys Nationwide
Anyway... What can be said about this build? There are a lot of builds I have found using the search engine have had no comments so it is hard to figure out if they're worth playing. I think I'll base my build more closely on Cinnabar's, but I'm still curious abut this one.
I agree with grizzled_dwarflord. You dont really get the full effect of a Cleric or a Paladin. Cleric loses out on a lot of spell casting power. Paladin doesnt get to take advantage of the smiting ability or longer durations of divine might/shield. With this build, most people dont build with Dev. Crit. in mind anymore. I cant really offer a lot of advice with the build. I like the Paladin/Fighter/CoT split myself.