Draconic Avenger has good saving throws due to his Divine Grace. With his decent level in sorc and a charisma level he can effectively cast alot of spells. He uses the power of the might Scimitar to get off a high critical when he uses his Keen edge spell and will ravange his enemies with Devastating critical. With his high defense of 55 natural and concelament bonus from improved invisiblity he will effectively dogde many attacks. Defense comes from the fact that he can where a Full Plate and a Tower Sheild. He can also cast the might Epic Mage armor to boost him up. If enemies happen to get past the Defense they have to contend with the damage reduction from Epic Warding.
This Character is effectively immune to: Fire(RDD) Sleep(RDD) Paralysis(RDD) Mind Effect Spells(Sorc Spell)
he is also hard to knock down do to his high Discipline.
Things to look for to help this character are things that give Charisma bonuses, Strengh bonuses, Immune to Critical Hit, and Evasion/Improved Evasion.
Reccommended Spells: Level 0: All cantrips Level 1: Mage Armor, True Strike, Protection from Alignment, Shield, Ray of Enfeeblement Level 2: Eagle's Splendor, Bull's Strength, Endurance, Death Armor, Flame Weapon Level 3: Haste, Keen Edge, Greater Magic Weapon, Flame Arrow Level 4: Improved Invisibility, Isaac's Lesser Missle Storm, Elemental Shield, Minor Globe of Invulnerability Level 5: Mestil's Acid Sheath, Energy Buffer, Firebrand, Lesser Mind Blank Level 6: Bigby's Forceful Hand, Isaac's Greater Missile Storm, True Seeing Level 7: Shadowshield, Spell Mantle, Bigby's Grasping Hand Level 8: Horrid Wilting, Greater Sanctuary, Mind Blank Level 9: Mordenkainen's Disjunction, Bigby's Crushing Hand, Wail of the Banshee Level 10: Warding, Mage Armor
Is this a melee build? Or a sorcerer build or both?
This build was ment to be kinda both. I wanted to be to cast magic to damage the opponet but be able to back up with my weapon.
Edited By XyberKnight on 08/05/04 21:15
Keep Dex and Wisdom at 10 and have let Str and Cha be at 10. Other than that, it's okay.
The reason I have my Dex and Wisdom at 8 is so I could have the highest possible Strength and Charisma. The Dex can easy be brought up buy casting cats grace or throught items. I also don't have a problem losing 1 in my Wisdom. I needed atleast 25 strength for Devastating Critical. I also thought about possibly replacing the Great Strength with Epic Skill Focus: Discipline making him harder to knockdown or Getting a Spell Focus or Spell Penetration making a more effective to bypass defenses.
Edited By XyberKnight on 08/05/04 22:04
Just an FYI, you are going to have serious issues vs. opponents with any significant spell resistance.
Quote: Posted 08/05/04 22:10:51 (GMT) -- Emrill
Just an FYI, you are going to have serious issues vs. opponents with any significant spell resistance.
The highest spell resistance is 28 on a balor (he'll have a 1d20+29) unless you are talking about pvp. PvP, he strap with sorcerers and fighter-types. It's a pretty damn good build.
Edited By TyrPaladin on 08/05/04 22:26
Never said anythign that pointed to it being bad. I just gave him a heads up on a weakness in his build.
He he, nice build!
I have made something similar (Tyrial Dragonheart, Sorcedin I called it ). Only I used 4 levels of paladin to get Divine Might and Divine Shield. My idea was to concentrate on being a melee character and use the sorcerer levels to add extra enhancements (keen edge, flame weapon, elemental shield, etc). The offensive spells are also usefull ofcourse .
I had two versions made one with Devastating Critical and less epic spells (only one) and one more focussed on epic spells (for servers that don't use Devastating Critical).
If you are interested I can send you my version, or I could just post it here if you want to.
just curious... can the sorcerer really take dev crit as an epic feat?
good build though, I've also used RDD paladin sorcerer combos in the past... they rarely turn out bad. my favourite uses divine shield/might and extra turning for extra melee abilities though, not easy fitting in autostill early then though.
just curious... can the sorcerer really take dev crit as an epic feat?
good build though, I've also used RDD paladin sorcerer combos in the past... they rarely turn out bad. my favourite uses divine shield/might and extra turning for extra melee abilities though, not easy fitting in autostill early then though.
happy gaming
Yeah. Anyone can take it if they meet the prereqs. (The Sorcie wouldn't be able to take it as a bonus feat though) _________________ "Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
Hey Dimundome go ahead and post that build on the message board here. I would be intrested in seeing it
The nice thing about this build is if you want to you could replace the overwhelming critical and devastating critical with other Epic spells or throwing on Epic spell penetration or Focus by also removing the Great Strengh. That way you are more likely to hit the opponet. To do this all you would have to do is switch around the last 2 sorc and RDD levels
Correction on Level thanks to Cinnabar Din
30(RDD)-Overwhelming Critical 31(Sorc) 32(Sorc) 33(Sorc)-Devastating Critical 34(Sorc)-Auto Still 1 35(Sorc) 36(Sorc)-Epic Spell: Warding 37(Sorc)-Auto Still 2 38(Sorc) 39(Sorc)-Epic Spell : Mage Armor 40(Sorc)-Auto Still 3
Concentration : 43 Discipline: 33 Lore: 43 Spell Craft : 43 Tumlble : 20 Heal : 26
Well this is my Dev. Crit. version, with less epic spells and sorcerer levels.
Feats Level 1: Power Attack Cleave Level 3: Weapon Focus (longsword) Level 6: Divine Might Level 9: Divine Shield Level 12: Great Cleave Level 15: Improved Critical Level 18: Combat Casting Level 21: Epic Weapon Focus Level 24: Still Spell Level 27: Auto Still I Level 30: Epic Spell Level 33: Epic Spell Level 36: Epic Spell, Auto Still II Level 39: Epic Spell, Auto Still III
Final Saves: Fortitude: 33 Reflexes: 25 Will: 31
No buffs, Normal Light Crossbow AB: 31/26/21 Dam: 1-8 + 6 (+10 Divine Might)
AC 17 (Clothes, No Buffs) 28 (Full Plate + Tower Shield) 38 (Full Plate + Tower Shield + Divine Shield)
HP max: 304
No Skill point distribution noted down here either, but it's pretty much the same as my previous post.
Edited By Dimundome on 08/10/04 18:14
They are both much the same, the first has a bit better AB, a little more AC, and ofcourse dev. crit. While the last can use more epic spells, it just depends on what you would like to play.
Mine could probably use a few adjustments too, so any advice on how to improve is ofcourse welcome
I have a question about this build. I thought it would be interesting, so I've started it on a PW I play on. Because of the Pally levels, I want to wear heavy armor and play up front. However, this causes arcane spell failure most of the time. How do you do it? Change clothes real quick everytime you want to cast? Just be in light armor and flank?
Auto Still 3 allows you to cast lvl 9 and under spells with any # of spell failure. Thats how he casts with plate on.
I think he meant that it was hard to play the character from level 1.
I'd say take "still spell" early on instead of in Epic levels.
I have a question about this build. I thought it would be interesting, so I've started it on a PW I play on. Because of the Pally levels, I want to wear heavy armor and play up front. However, this causes arcane spell failure most of the time. How do you do it? Change clothes real quick everytime you want to cast? Just be in light armor and flank?
I don't think this character is designed to tank and cast spells until you've achieved the Auto Still Spell feats.
Early on, you could play as a buffing Paladin (strip and buff before combat, armor up and wade in to melee)up to level 13 when you really start taking Sorc levels. At that point you'll probably want to sell off your armor, run around in robes and play as a burly sorceror. Once you achieve the Auto Still Spell feats you can start casting spells without arcane failure.
As Martin suggested, you could take Still Spell feat early and then cast a few Stilled spells while in armor. Perhaps you could take Still Spell at level 3? I'm not sure if it's available on a Paladin level.
Regardless, if you're going to take this build onto a PW I strongly encourage you to level it up offline in a trainer mod to make sure it develops as you'd like it to. If you want to do this with your PW character, you can Save your online character to your local vault and then level up that version offline. Take notes of the development and keep them handy as the online version of your characted advances.
If any of this isn't clear (or is incorrect) point it out. Good luck.
K. _________________ Check out the Epic Character Builders Guild Click Here Test your new builds in this mod: Click Here
