This is a build I have always enjoyed on my PW. It's quite a difficult tempalte to level but is very powerful and versatile at every lvl so this build isn't handicapped at any time. Mainly this build was designed to combat shadow dancers but it also works as a good anti-tank as well.
Cleric 35 Rogue 3 Monk 2
Race: Elf Alignment: Any Lawful Stats Str 10 Dex 16 Con 12 Wis 16 Int 14 Cha 8
At Level 20 with nothing but a normal short bow Phae has: an ac of 22, an AB of 20, Fort Save 17, Reflex Save 15, Will Save 19 before spell buffs.
After Spell buffs Phae has: an ac of 43, an AB of 37, Fort Save 25, Reflex Save 23, Will Save 26
Level 21 - Cleric 17 - Great Wisdom I - Concentration +2, Spellcraft +2, save 0 points Level 22 - Cleric 18 - Concentration +1, Spellcraft +1, save 2 points Level 23 - Cleric 19 - save 6 points Level 24 - Cleric 20 - Wisdom +1 - Great Wisdom II - save 10 points Level 25 - Cleric 21 - save 14 points Level 26 - Cleric 22 - save 18 points Level 27 - Cleric 23 - Armor Skin, Epic Fortitude - save 22 points Level 28 - Cleric 24 - Wisdom +1 - save 26 points Level 29 - Cleric 25 - save 30 points Level 30 - Cleric 26 - Great Wisdom III, Great Wisdom IV - save 34 points Level 31 - Cleric 27 - save 38 points Level 32 - Cleric 28 - Wisdom +1 - save 42 points Level 33 - Cleric 29 - Great Wisdom V, Great Wisdom VI - save 46 points Level 34 - Cleric 30 - save 50 points Level 35 - Cleric 31 - save 54 points Level 36 - Cleric 32 - Wisdom +1 - Epic Skill Focus: Listen, Great Wisdom VII - save 58 points Level 37 - Cleric 33 - save 62 points Level 38 - Cleric 34 - save 66 points Level 39 - Cleric 35 - Epic Skill Focus: Spot, Great Wisdom VIII - save 70 points Level 40 - Rogue 3 - Wisdom +1 - Tumble +19, Spot + 23, Listen +22, Use Magic Device +16
Final Stats:
Str 10 Dex 16 Con 12 Wis 34 Int 14 Cha 8
At Level 40 with nothing but a normal short bow Phae has: an ac of 35, an AB of 37, Fort Save 31, Reflex Save 25, Will Save 36 before spell buffs.
After Spell buffs Phae has: an ac of 56, an AB of 60, Fort Save 39, Reflex Save 33, Will Save 42.. her spot and listen are 70 and with her elven abilty to constantly search she is more than a match for most stealth users
Uncanny Dodge helps Phae keep her ac bonuses even if caught flat footed. Her incredible wisdom score empowers her AB her AC and her cleric spells. Magical items for Phae should focus on boosting her wisdom. With wisdom boosting items her ac, ab, spells and spot and listen are all boosted even higher. Dex boosting gear is also a great asset to Phae's AC and her reflex save as well as con gear for her HP and fortitude. Any dodge ac or haste items are also a major benefit as well.
With use magic device Phae can use almost any item of her choosing as well as arcane spell scrolls such as Mage Armor and Shield to further enhance her armor class. _________________ Vajra: Just how many men are you involved with Kyri? Kyriani: That Depends Vajra, do you mean men as in males? or just humans?
Edited By griphook on 09/08/05 00:59
Interesting, a very different kind of build - it looks really good.
I would 'tweak' the initial stats even more.
STR 8 DEX 14 CON 10 INT 14 WIS 18 CHA 8
STR is really not important since the char. is not wearing heavy armor or a heavy melee weapon. At level 40 I guess a couple of bags of holding should be available anyway.
Another thought - maybe you should put some points in Discipline - I know that it's rather annoying to be knocked down especially when you rely on casting and you have a low'ish number of hitpoints.
EDIT:
Because the WIS is so high the DC the opponent has to save against is really high - if the spell foucs feats could be put in somehow it would be very hard for anyone to save against offensive spells.
I think I might playtest this build
Edited By MartinJHolm on 09/17/04 09:49
I seen this build in action on the PW story Athas Reborn. She tanks 10 beast of the harder variety there without taking any more than 20 damage on a given spawn. Very nasty build. Always wanted to ask her: why elf and not human or halfling to avoid the XP penalty/ snag extra skill points? As a novice, I never see the reasoning behind any given build until it's explained to me. Is it the always active serch mode and the free bow/blade feat? Much appreciated and glad to finally get my hands on this template.
Yes elf is for active search and free bow prof
Also dex is a cheap to raise to 16 for even more ac goodness
I prefer the starting 16 wisdom because that 6 ability score points I can distribute elsewhere and it would only add 1 ab ac and dc... at the cost of 40 hp, 1 fort save bonus, low str, and lower dex which is costing me an ac point so it cancels out the ac gain from the higher wisdom.
This build doesnt need spellfocus for what its designed to do but it can be reworked if higher spell DCs are what you prefer.
Discipline isnt needed since you concentrate more on not getting hit at all than avoiding things like knockdown. That ac is only what it could be without any magical gear. if you can manage to get gear to max out your wisdom and dex bonuses your ac is substantially higher add things like spell scrolls of mage armor and shield and you can boost your ac even further. Any kind of boots with a dodge bonus is even more ac. And a haste potion or item is icing on the cake.
To combat stealthers Phae can use scrolls like clairvoyance and amplify to further boost her considerable spot and listen skills. Any gear that you add on top of it with spot and listen bonuses makes hiding from her virtually impossible and since most stealthers lack a good fort or will save you can usually catch them with a well placed Implosion or destruction spell. _________________ Vajra: Just how many men are you involved with Kyri? Kyriani: That Depends Vajra, do you mean men as in males? or just humans?
Edited By Kyriani Agrivar on 09/18/04 23:31
As a modification to this build one can have starting strength and con of 8 to max out the wisdom at lvl 1 and drop the epic skill focus feats to take the final two great wisdom feats for max ac and ab and spell DC
you'll need much con gear to mitigate the poor hp and fort save but overall its probably veyr powerful in the single player campaigns.
if you arent looking to deal with SDs you can use the above modification to stats with a Human and have a 10 con instead of 8 as well as no xp penalty. but your starting dex will only be 14 then and you wont have active search. The build is modifiable in a number of ways depending on your playstyle and environment. _________________ Vajra: Just how many men are you involved with Kyri? Kyriani: That Depends Vajra, do you mean men as in males? or just humans?
Consider me schooled! Thanks for the clarification!
Just a point I wanted to make. Why focus on both Spot AND Listen? You really only need one or the other to spot SDs and Corner-Sneakers. And that would open up a ton more skill points to be distributed elsewhere.
Personally, I usually take only listen, and take Epic Skill Focus Listen, since many of the servers I play on have items that give +10 more Hide than Move Silent, so you can catch people much easier with that route.
Just a suggestion.
Edited By PrionViver on 02/13/08 20:07
Quote: Posted 02/13/08 20:06 (GMT) -- PrionViver
Just a point I wanted to make. Why focus on both Spot AND Listen? You really only need one or the other to spot SDs and Corner-Sneakers. And that would open up a ton more skill points to be distributed elsewhere.
Personally, I usually take only listen, and take Epic Skill Focus Listen, since many of the servers I play on have items that give +10 more Hide than Move Silent, so you can catch people much easier with that route.
Just a suggestion.
Spot and Listen help you against both Hide and Move Silently allowing for quicker detection, (Stealth builds can be high on both).
Quote: Posted 02/13/08 20:06 (GMT) -- PrionViver
Just a point I wanted to make. Why focus on both Spot AND Listen? You really only need one or the other to spot SDs and Corner-Sneakers. And that would open up a ton more skill points to be distributed elsewhere.
Personally, I usually take only listen, and take Epic Skill Focus Listen, since many of the servers I play on have items that give +10 more Hide than Move Silent, so you can catch people much easier with that route.
Just a suggestion.
Listen is bugged against HiPS (you action queue will be cleared even though you keep on perceiving your enemy, which is where Spot helps a lot) although it has the advantage of letting you perceive invisible opponents and to "see" behind your back and around corners or past closed doors. Being able to have both is the best solution. _________________ They can't stop us Let them try For Heavy Metal We will die
This is a nice build, and the cleric/monk/rogue combo is usually a pretty solid one. If you could live without getting Use Magic Device from Rogue, a 35 Cleric 3 Monk 2 Shadowdancer is also a nice combo. You still get uncanny dodge, but you trade UMD for Hips. The combination of Hips/Harm works really well for that build too. 32 6 2 of the same class split work nicely as well, with the extra monk speed and all. Either way, nice job.
It's great to see people still discussing this build so long after Kyri made it. The server that spawned this template is still operating and is better than ever, with even more of the kind of content that made it necessary in the first place.
