After typing a rather long post on the Uberness of Wizard/Cleric builds (the post can be found here: Click Here I decided to create one myself. It turned out very similar to cdualepp's Dragon Kin build, but of course it uses Cleric rather than Druid.
This allows the build to be more effective in caster form - particularly in melee - partly because he has all the uber Cleric buffs, and partly because his stats aren't quite so gimped.
However, he isn't quite as effective in Dragon form (he can shift into a dragon using Polymorph Self), although I think Iron Golem form would be more useful, as it makes him immune to criticals and sneak attacks (I seem to recall billb0 saying how bad@$$ it would be to have an Iron Golem with Epic Warding + Mestil's Acid Sheath + Elemental Shield + Death Armor; this build can do it).
1 Two-Weapon Fighting 3 Weapon Focus: Kama 6 Ambidexterity 9 Extend Spell 12 Knockdown 15 Empower Spell 18 ITWF 21 Epic Weapon Focus: Kama, Great Int I * 24 Great Dex I 26 Great Int II * 27 Great Dex II 30 Great Dex III 31 Great Int III * 33 Great Dex IV 36 Craft Wand, Maximize Spell * 39 Epic Mage Armor, Epic Warding *
Note that Epic Mage Armor will give you +20 AC total, and it doesn't stack with the three spells above it. Still, these spells could prove useful until you pick up Epic Mage Armor.
Note: +2 to all saves vs. good/evil (Protection from Alignment)
Also note that you get +8 to all saves vs. spells.
I particularly like the addition of the Craft Wand feat (I was originally thinking Armor Skin), as it allows you to put virtually every 1st-4th lvl spell you have onto a wand, provided you have enough cash, XP, and materials.
Overall I think it's a very powerful build even if it doesn't have quite as much spell power as Tengudor's Red Mage build (2 fewer Cleric levels).
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 05/27/10 20:48
I am sorry to bring this topic back to life, but it's just amazing that I have a very similar build with only a few minor tweaks and ONE MAJOR TWEAK and I was about to post it. I think it's totally undeserved that this topic has no replies. Only when you've played a guy like this can you understand his power. Rather than posting another build and hearing it's a copy of this one, I'll post my comments here:
- MAJOR TWEAK: WHERE THE HELL IS WEAPON FINESSE?????? You need to drop a feat and pick it up at lvl 3. IMO dropping KD is best.
- Go Cleric 14, then Wizard 1, then Cleric 15, then Wizard 2, then Monk 1 and then another 2 Wizard pre-epic. This way you can avoid XP penalties until lvl 18. The Cleric won't be able to cast lvl 8 spells until the stat increase at lvl 16, so that why you pick a lvl of Wizard at 15 unless u're a lazy one and don't wanna click too much. Swap the feat orders to get WF: Kama at lvl 18 and just use a dagger and a shield until then. You can benefit from another Magic Vestment spell on your shield as well as your armor for more AC until you get the monk CHEESE. Besides at that point you'll have enough DEX and WIS to make it worth it. Before then, you get more AC from the shield + Magic Vestment.
- You don't need STR 8, drop it to 6 and get +1 INT, you'll get an increased modifier and extra spells at virtually no cost (except lvl 1 carrying capacity).
- I chose the same domains and virtually the same spells, but some different feats in the epic portion of the build. Here's what I did (I went with Elf and started with 18 DEX):
1- Extend Spell 3- Weapon Finesse 6- Empower Spell 9- TWF 12- Ambidexterity 15- ITWF 18- WF: Kama 21- Improved Critical: Kama 24- EWF: Kama 27- Armor Skin 30- Epic Prowess 33- Great Dex I 36- Great Dex II 39- Epic Warding Wiz Bonus Feats - Great Int I, II, III, IV, Epic Mage Armor.
I think Maximize spell is expendable, but if you really want it, drop Epic Prowess. It's unnecessary with the ridiculous amount of buffs you have.
- About getting Craft Wand, it's not worth it, seriously. THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH THIS BUILD IS THE LACK OF SLOTS IN YOUR TOOLBAR!!!! No way I'd use wands to have even less slots!!!
Anyway, awesome job, really, except for the weapon finesse slip this is 1st class material!!
Take it EZ!
Wow. Can't believe this slipped through. It's clearly supposed to have WF, and it just as clearly doesn't. Oops.
The rest is arguable. The only suggested tweak I can actively disagree with is dropping Craft Wand. Love Craft. I'd love it double in this build. Quickslots aren't really an issue for me. I'm fine using wands out of an inventory, and I'd certainly keep my buffs out of the quickbar. Anyways though, you don't like it, you don't like it. I like it.
I don't see any dire need to make him Gnome. Change the Race to Human, and voila. You have weapon finesse. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
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@ onion eater
I keep my hour/level and extended turn/level buffs out of the quickbar cuz I walk around already buffed up. But the round/level, extended round/level buffs plus True Strike and Divine Favor / Extended Divine Favor need to be accessible in the blink of an eye. And even so there are not enough quickslots, or rather, JUST ENOUGH quickslots. But, if you can use them from you inventory, then cool.
The downside to this guy (if any) is that you spend half an hour buffing to fight 5 minutes.
@ Grizzled_Dwarflord
You're right, no argument here, but I am sure it was a slip cuz he lists his AB and everything else AS IF he had finesse, except he doesn't
