Playable from level 1 - 40 ..PvM Build

Ive done about every combination of Fighter/(fighting class)/Shadowdancer there is except this one. So I thought Id finish the collection.

This is a zorro type character. He has the same type of honor system, however he doesnt take prisoners and is quite sadistic. He plays evil at its own game. If he finds it he will be judge/jury/ executioner/torturer.

He thinks himself above other evil characters because he has "ethics".

Usual starting stats
STR 14
DEX 18
CON 10
WIS 8
INT 14
CHA 8

1 Fighter Power Attack, Cleave, Weapon Finesse
2 Fighter Weapon focus (rapier)
3 Fighter Dodge
4 Fighter Weapon Specialisation (rapier)
5 Fighter
6 fighter Expertise, Knockdown
7 fighter
8 Blackguard
9 Blackguard Improved Critical (rapier)
10 blackguard
11 Blackguard
12 Blackguard improved expertise.
13 Blackguard
14 Blackguard
15 Blackguard Improved Knockdown
16 Blackguard
17 Blackguard
18 Shadowdancer Blind Fight
19 Shadowdancer
20 Shadowdancer
21 Fighter Epic Weapon Focus (rapier), Great DEX 1
22 Fighter
23 Fighter Epic Weapon Specialisation (rapier)
24 Shadowdancer Great DEX 2
25 Shadowdancer
26 Shadowdancer
27 Shadowdancer Great DEX 3
28 Shadowdancer
29 Shadowdancer
30 Shadowdancer Great DEX 4
31 Shadowdancer
32 Shadowdancer
33 shadowdancer Epic Dodge, Self Concealment 1
34 Shadowdancer
35 Shadowdancer
36 Shadowdancer Self Concealment 2 and 3
37 Shadowdancer
38 Shadowdancer
39 Shadowdancer Self Concealment 4 and 5
40 Fighter

Features
Sneak attack 3d6
Epic Dodge/SC5( who would have guessed)

Syrath


Fixed typo in the title - Kail Pendragon
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Edited By Kail Pendragon on 07/26/06 11:18

Could you post the specifics on vital points as AB, HPs, etc.?

I do like this build. I think it mixes great and even has great potential as a really cool roleplaying character. Too bad he isn't playable on my server though Now that looks like a fun build .
Quote: Posted 05/22/05 22:30:05 (GMT) -- Kalmar_Oxin

Could you post the specifics on vital points as AB, HPs, etc.?

I do like this build. I think it mixes great and even has great potential as a really cool roleplaying character. Too bad he isn't playable on my server though

AC 31 with large shield and clothes
Hp 362 hp
AB 43/38/33/28 unbuffed.
Fort 23
Will 15
Refl 29

Syrath
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Quote: Posted 05/23/05 12:52:52 (GMT) -- syrath1001
Will 15

That is problematic, isn't it?
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE! I'm guessing the Will is semi-acceptable as you get an instant reroll with slippery mind - free at lvl7 of ShadowDancer.

Question; would it be beneficial at all to change shadowdancer to rogue; and pump umd for using scrolls? You would have access to the same feats in the end (I think) more-or-less, maybe one non-essential feat less - in return by UMD'ing you can get a scroll of mind blank to get immunity to mind spells for a decent duration; or even add that to a sequencer item if available. I'm not a believer in Slippery unless that Will Save is over 20.

If he takes Rogue, he'll lose a bonus feat somewhere--two if he takes slippery Mind.
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE!
Quote: Posted 05/23/05 16:05:04 (GMT) -- grizzled_dwarflord

I'm not a believer in Slippery unless that Will Save is over 20.

If he takes Rogue, he'll lose a bonus feat somewhere--two if he takes slippery Mind.

But then it wouldnt be a Syrath build.

Syrath
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It's SHADOWDANCER, dammit, shadowdancer!!! True indeed Syrath. I was just looking at it as a half-baked answer to gd's query on will save . Looks mean as hell but i checked several times, am i loosin my mind? Did you put all stat allocations to Dex? (i am assumin this is so, but you know what it means when you assume anything, and i know im not an *** and from what i've seen neither are any of you, so..) if that makes any sense....

Peace Ok; this is really just a guess. But bear with me, might be way off correct me if I am:

You need dex30 for sc1; so from what I can see; +dex all the way (18 [base] + 8 [32levels] + 4 [grt dex]) = 30.
Ac if you take no more dex = 10 [base] + 10[dex] + 8 [tumble] = 28
Plus large shield [+2] = 30

So the last two are dex too I think, thus giving ac of 31?

Edited By Khandahr on 05/23/05 17:21

Quote: Posted 05/23/05 16:51:25 (GMT) -- avado

Looks mean as hell but i checked several times, am i loosin my mind? Did you put all stat allocations to Dex? (i am assumin this is so, but you know what it means when you assume anything, and i know im not an *** and from what i've seen neither are any of you, so..) if that makes any sense....

Peace

Every stat into dex yes, theoretically you could put the last 2 stats somewhere else. Sorry many of my builds follow the same lines. SD levels greater than 10, epic dodge, self concealment 5. Even the same stats so my apologies for not including them.

Syrath
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Jim,(Fist.)
Quote: Posted 05/23/05 16:05:04 (GMT) -- grizzled_dwarflord

I'm not a believer in Slippery unless that Will Save is over 20.

If he takes Rogue, he'll lose a bonus feat somewhere--two if he takes slippery Mind.

Compare 15 with slippery mind with 20 without.

First number is roll required (for the without slippery mind and 20 save), 2nd is chance of success without , then 3rd is chance of sucess with slippery mind(but lower save)

20 5% 10%
19 10% 10%
18 15% 10%
17 20% 10%
16 25% 10%
15 30% 20%
14 35% 30%
13 40% 40%
12 45% 50%
11 50% 60%
10 55% 70%
9 60% 80%

and so on (over 100 percent means that the on an average save one or the other roll will be made - ON AVERAGE)

The only period where the 20 save without slippery mind is better is in the range of DC34-DC38 other than that the slippery mind with 5 less save is better off ,sometimes much better off. I wouldnt save 15 is a great save , but it is usually better than 20 if you have slippery mind.

Syrath
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Quote: Posted 05/23/05 21:02:01 (GMT) -- Fistdantilus-1

I, so love your SD builds, I'm curious, if you've played them all and what would be your favorite class build set-up:)

Jim,(Fist.)

I have played them all, and my favourite(now) is

Fighter 10/Rogue 2/Shadowdancer 28 armed with a bow, I used to prefer fighting with dual short swords, but Ive learned how to use the shadowlord to great effect nowadays.(I still wish they would fix the concealment bug though)

Syrath
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6 fighter Expertise, Knockdown
7 fighter
8 Blackguard
9 Blackguard Improved Critical (rapier)
10 blackguard
11 Blackguard
12 Blackguard Knockdown
I presume the bolded bit is a mistake? No the later knockdown should actually read improved expertise.

Oops.

Sorry.

OMG

Thanks

Syrath
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