This one has always lived in the woods. They are his home and he is devoted to them. Born a man, but raised in the divine groves of the forests. He has lived among the bears and the panthers and even the little badgers and has come to understand them in ways that most men will never even come close to. He has mastered the basic elements and knows how they work to preserve the balance of all things. He has even talked and played with the oldest and wisest creatures in the world, the dragons, and has been accepted as one of their friends.
I've wanted to post this guys a while back, and I did the nwn General forum. But I have made a few changes to him since then.
There are two versions of this build, and they really depend on how you want to play and what you need in teh world that you are in.
With a WIS of 32 and epic spell focus in evocation, the Implosion DC is a whopping 45. That means that really, only paladins and COT (Like the one CD just posted) can beat it. (well, and then there are spell sword type of build with a maxed out spellcraft). And now, Imposion is implemented the way it was meant to be. While he himself has only ok saves: Naked: Fort 22 Refl 18 Will 33
he has 206 skill points, so thats good for 5 full skills. Concentrate, Tumble, Spellcraft i would say are the 3 most important ones.
His AC should be very good 10(base)+1(dex)+11(wis)+8(tumble) and then he can get a full +12 to wis without any items.
His BAB is 25 but he is a cleric, so it can go up whenever he needs it to. I picked Zen archery for him to make him more of a support/caster type, and with a wis of 32 thats a nice AB bonus.
He does have a slighly lower than might be needed SR, but he has a few spells that can get around SR and as I said, he is a cleric, so he can always go in and melee. A dragon whose attacks deal an additional +7 magical damage and has flurry of blows and all those nice cleric buffs to raise his AB is not someone that you really want to go up against.
That said, his buffs can be dispelled, but he is no mage so in a pure one on one fight with a high lvl mage he will loose. However, in a nice party, he can buff his party up the wazzu! and keep on casting mass heals or summoning creatures and casting creeping dooms up until the other side either runs out of spells, or dies.
Now as I said, there are a few changes you can do to him. One of the things that this build could use is either HellBall and/or Martial wepaon (for the bows)
One of the changes is making him a cleric 22/druid 17/monk 1. This gives you all of the druid lvl 9 spells (if you need them). This also gives him a feat at the expnse of lowering the wisdom by 2 points.
Alternatively, you could still lower his wisdom to 30 and take Martial and Hellball if you wish. A bow is the most powerful ranged weapon that there is and this will give him a very nice boost in regular combat output.
Edited By griphook on 06/23/05 23:11
This is really a great build. I love the implosion and the versitility. You get a powerful caster that can be a skilled archer and turn into a dragon! It's brilliant. IMO I would go for the martial feat. Well done.
Quote: Posted 06/21/05 02:59:11 (GMT) -- aluka With a WIS of 32 and epic spell focus in evocation, the Implosion DC is a whopping 45. That means that really, only paladins and COT (Like the one CD just posted) can beat it. (well, and then there are spell sword type of build with a maxed out spellcraft).
Most dragon shape druids will have no problem with it either, I just made one with has an unbuffed fort save of 51 vs spells. He has a few levels CoT, but even without them it's still 46. Still, DC 45 will of course kill most enemies.
Edited By pulse cap on 06/21/05 11:03
Aye, the Forge Avatar that I just made has an unbuffed fort save of 45. And he's just a piece o crap fighter. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
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Aye! that he does but can he stop 5 harm spells
Implosion is good vs mages and rogues
Against piece-o-crap fighters, there is Blade Barrier, Harm and a few other nasty spells.
Quote: Posted 06/21/05 13:52:28 (GMT) -- aluka
Aye! that he does but can he stop 5 harm spells
There isn't much one can do against that. He would still actually have to successfully hit. He would probably have decent success in a low-magic environment. In mid to high he might be taking some heavy thwacks while he is attempting those touch attacks.
Quote: Against piece-o-crap fighters, there is Blade Barrier, Harm and a few other nasty spells.
He uses Blade Barrier's to pick his teeth. He'll make his save for half, and be on top of the mage laying down some Knockdown smack on him.
Of course, this all foolish conjecture on my part, because I have little doubt that most casters worth their salt should be able to take out most meleers. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
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yes, he can get hit, and I do wish I could have had the feats to include Imp. Expertise on him. I guess thats another possible thing to do and bring down the wisdom to 30 but gain an AC of +9 (you loose one from getting wis 30 instead of 32)
Quote: Posted 06/21/05 13:52:28 (GMT) -- aluka Against piece-o-crap fighters, there is Blade Barrier, Harm and a few other nasty spells.
That won't work well against dragons though, mine has reflex save 53 vs spells, and evasion. With an unbuffed AC of 66 (most of it should still apply vs touch) you will also have trouble using harm.
Quote: Posted 06/21/05 19:46:27 (GMT) -- pulse cap
Quote: Posted 06/21/05 13:52:28 (GMT) -- aluka Against piece-o-crap fighters, there is Blade Barrier, Harm and a few other nasty spells.
That won't work well against dragons though, mine has reflex save 53 vs spells, and evasion. With an unbuffed AC of 66 (most of it should still apply vs touch) you will also have trouble using harm.
pulse, lets not get into a PvP discussion
my guys is caster, who can melee when he needs to.
and hes a dragon with a buffed STR of about 60 (thats +25) and an AB of 65 or so. Divine favor and Divine power give him an automatic +10 to AB and then there are aid, bless prayer battletide and so on.
As I said, a Cleric/Dragon is a dangerous thing to face. his AB will be up there.
The AC of most dragon build is almost the same.
in a dragon vs dragon match, a Shifter Dragon like Nature's Fces has the biggest advantage.
Quote: Posted 06/21/05 22:34:31 (GMT) -- aluka
pulse, lets not get into a PvP discussion
Right sorry about that. You do realise that the rest of your post is a contiued PvP discussion though, right? Still, I'll be nice and leave it alone.
Edited By pulse cap on 06/22/05 00:27
ehe nope, i was just following up my orginal post and describing how good he can be as a dragon. Since i noticed that I didnt post that in the original post.
but it is a good question anyways. would you guys consider this a PvP build?
Be careful with that implosion, with the latest patch you could end up killing yourself with it. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
