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Edited By Kail Pendragon on 10/12/07 15:05
Because of his CON of 8 he'll only have 304 HP. I'd be scared to play a melee fighter with that few HP. I'd drop 2 off his initial STR and take 14 CON. He'll lose 1 from his AB and damage but IMO it is worth it for 120HP. _________________ Teaching men a lesson in combat etiquette.
I little constitution would go a long way with this build. I know you can get some nice boots or amulets that boost Con, but for a monk those slots are perhaps better used for monk boots (which give AC and a +3 Dex i think) and amulets of wisdom (again for better AC). Looks like a slight drop in AB might be worth it. Also, I think that you get a -1 to AC from the wisdom negative (but I am not sure), which further proves the need for wisdom enhancing equipment. Attribute balance is so hard with monk characters.
Also, in terms of strength based monks or those with WM levels, here are a few:
Blade Monk by Amzard Spirit Warrior by Amzard Monk/Fighter/WM by d3myz3 Speedy Delivery by Deltutammatre Street Fighting Monk V2.0 By juicyplasma Spell-Resistant Paladin by K'orwyn Hammer Fist by Nukenin
Something more to chew on: Very interesting build though. And the coolness factor is upped by dual wielding kamas.
-C _________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
The posted HP were correct. Didn't notice the Toughness feat until just now. I'd still increase CON though. _________________ Teaching men a lesson in combat etiquette.
I would have stopped with monk at 20 and have taken more fighter or WM levels (either 7 WM and 1 F or 1 WM and 7 F). You don't really get anything for being a monk post level 20. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Changed STR to start with 16, Con at 14, Moved Toughness to 21'st level. New build:
I would have stopped with monk at 20 and have taken more fighter or WM levels (either 7 WM and 1 F or 1 WM and 7 F). You don't really get anything for being a monk post level 20.
Two Words. Spell Resistance
Quote: Also, I think that you get a -1 to AC from the wisdom negative (but I am not sure), which further proves the need for wisdom enhancing equipment. Attribute balance is so hard with monk characters.
Nope. Only add wisdom modifier to AC if wisdom is 10 or more.
I would have stopped with monk at 20 and have taken more fighter or WM levels (either 7 WM and 1 F or 1 WM and 7 F). You don't really get anything for being a monk post level 20.
Two Words. Spell Resistance
That gives you a 38 SR, which isn't affected by SR lowering spells. It isn't enough to affect a relatively pure caster (35+ caster levels), and against multiclassed builds a 30 will likely prove just as effective. Really, it's only going to protect you from something like a harm from a fighter/cleric. A fighter/mage will just cast timestop and beat the tar out of you anyway. Unless you have 56+ SR, which is going to affect the pure casters, it isn't really worth taking the extra monk levels just for SR. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Um...even if you aren't going for the epic crit feats, wouldn't improved critical be a nice thing to have?
Actually, iirc, Monk SR stacks with items, so even with an 18 SR item, you'd be effective, and you can get those in many places.
And about the Overwhelming/Devistating/Improved Criticals, where? This guy has too few feats.
Dodge, Mobility, Expertise,Improved Expertise, Weapon Focus: Kama, Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack are all needed for the WM levels,
Ambidexterity, TWF, ITWF are needed for the 10 attacks per round.
Without toughness, this guy dies too much in epic levels... So, what to take out?
BTW: This guy gets too low STR to get Overwhelming/Devistating. (you'd have to replace Great STR's with them)
Quote: Posted 07/31/05 13:09:50 (GMT) -- kemkons
Actually, iirc, Monk SR stacks with items, so even with an 18 SR item, you'd be effective, and you can get those in many places.
It doesn't, you get the highest of item SR or monk SR.
Also you should take your first level as monk instead of fighter. It will get you an extra 6 skill points. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Edited By Mithdradates on 07/31/05 19:33
Quote: Posted 07/31/05 13:09:50 (GMT) -- kemkons
Actually, iirc, Monk SR stacks with items, so even with an 18 SR item, you'd be effective, and you can get those in many places.
And about the Overwhelming/Devistating/Improved Criticals, where? This guy has too few feats.
Dodge, Mobility, Expertise,Improved Expertise, Weapon Focus: Kama, Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack are all needed for the WM levels,
Ambidexterity, TWF, ITWF are needed for the 10 attacks per round.
Without toughness, this guy dies too much in epic levels... So, what to take out?
BTW: This guy gets too low STR to get Overwhelming/Devistating. (you'd have to replace Great STR's with them)
Kemkons,
While Imp. Expertise is a nice-to-have feat for a dual-wielder, it is not a requirement for Weapon Master.
If you're so tight for feats, how about dropping a few Monk levels and upping Fighter levels? Say Fighter 9/Monk 25/WM 7?
And I wouldn't take Toughness at 21. It's worth 21 hit points at that level - I would rather take Epic Wpn Focus, Spec, and Prowess as soon as possible. As a matter of fact, since you're so tight for feats, perhaps you should drop Toughness period? If you're married to Toughness, I'd suggest taking it pre-epic (perhaps in place of Imp. Expertise), or around level 30, after you've picked up EWF, EWS, and Epic Prowess.
One last thought: what about starting as a Monk, or taking Monk 1 at level 2? The 'free' feat Cleave is useful to a low level fighter. Plus Monks get more Skill points than Fighters I believe.
Kaliban. _________________ "Where there is life, there is hope." - Grover
The posted HP were correct. Didn't notice the Toughness feat until just now. I'd still increase CON though.