Here is something I have been playing around with. Needs a good amount of tweeking, so I figured that the fine people here could weigh in and tell what how to improved this build. My goal was to build a divine sort of spellsword character (yes, they are addictive grizz, but hard to get right...) who makes use of a two-bladed sword, high strength and rogue sneak attacks to finish off opponents. The clerics use of summons, invisibility spells (darkness and ultravision too, for that matter) and knockdown give a nice trio of techniques for getting those sneaks in...although I wish I could have fitted in IKD. I also think that I needed to get at least expertise in, but I just couldn't fit it. Also, this char doesn't get an XP, which is nice. I dunno, just let me know what you think. I wanted to preserve HP, and everything else, for that matter. I think that I spread the stats too thin, but let me know what you think.
PvM, playable 1-40
Human Rogue 15, Cleric 15, CoT 10
STR 15 to 30 DEX 15 CON 14 INT 10 WIS 14 to 17 CHA 8
1 )Rogue1 TWF, Ambi 2 )Cleric1 3 )Rogue2 Exotic Weap 4 )Rogue3 5 )Cleric2 6 )Cleric3 Extend Spell 7 )Cleric4 8 )Rogue4 9 )Cleric5 Weap Focus: TBS 10)Rogue5 11)Cleric6 12)Rogue6 Knockdown 13)CoT1 14)CoT2 Improved Critical 15)CoT3 Blind Fight 16)Cleric7 17)CoT4 ITWF 18)Rogue7 Toughness 19)Cleric8 20)Rogue8 21)CoT5 Great Strength I 22)CoT6 EWF 23)CoT7 24)CoT8 Epic Prowess, Great Wis I 25)Rogue9 26)Cleric9 27)Cleric10, Great Wis II 28)Rogue10 Slippery Mind 29)Rogue11 30)CoT9 Great Ster II 31)Cleric11 32)Cleric12 33)Rogue12 Great Str III 34)Rogue13 Improved Evasion 35)Cleric13 36)Cleric14 Great Str IV 37)CoT10 Great Wis 3 38)Rogue14 39)Cleric15 Great Str V 40)Rogue15
As for skills, dump point into Concentration and Spellcraft at cleric levels, Discipline at CoT levels and Tumble, UMD, Search, and whatever else you wish (disable trap isn't bad) at Rogue levels. You should be able to get 40+ in Concentration, Discipline, Tumble, Spellcraft, and Search and some points leftover for a decent UMD score.
Saves: Fort 29 Refl 29 with Improved Evasion Will 27 with Slippery Mind
Domains: Trickery for invisibility spells and improved invis, and Healing to give some nice versatility in case party lacks full blown healer/low on potions. Could be replaced with Plant/Magic for better spell selection. But having Heal a level lower is nice
Spells: 7 levels of Cleric...enough for most situations. Access to all healing main healing spells and damage boosting spells. Allows for plenty of buffing for yourself and yuor comrades...and your summons in long battles.
Basically, using your invisibility you can scout out the situation, adjust your spell list to compensate, and then decimate your opponents with a combination of sneak attacks, offensive and defensive spells, and plain old melee power.
I should give thanks to Ithacan for his Divine Commando series for inspiration/leveling ideas, and Stravinsky's Arcane Blade of Torm for inspiration both in the build and in the name. Also thanks to gizz for showing me what a rogue/Cot spellsword can do with his Professional build. If anyone else would like credit b/c they think I borrowed from your build...you are probably right and I apologize for missing you! Overall this build isn't terribly original, I think, but maybe just different enough.
Tell me what you think...
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Edited By griphook on 08/25/05 13:35
Wouldn't it be nice to have cleric level 8 spells? (ooh, battletide!) I'd I'd give up 2 great str feats for one more great wis and a feat of your choice. Perhaps just one str for one wis on a low or mid-magic world where you don't reach the +12 limit anyway.
Very Nice! I like it quite a bit; especially the fact that it is a strength build that gets 16 BAB, all the dual-wield feats, plus Darkfire and Sneak attacks.
Anything that isn't immune to sneak attacks will be slaughtered when you use the Ultravision/Darkness combo, especially with Darkfire, Divine favor adding to the damage.
The only thing that might cause you some occasional problems is the low caster level vs. Dispel. If you run into mobs that spam dispel's you could see your buffs quickly disappear. I wouldn't change your build for it, though, I just thought I'd mention it.
Again, very nice build.
Nice build. I don't see a way to squeeze in IKD without giving up dualwielding altogether and putting some of those Dex points into Int. The advantage in doing this would be more skill points (approx 80), 1.5 strength bonus if you go 2-handed weapon, or sword and board for shield bonus, and a +2increase to your AB. More efficient, perhaps, but loses out in the concept category.
As for Epic, I, too, would consider dropping two great strengths for 1 Great Wisdom and Armor Skin. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
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I think that I agree with pulse and grizz. the extra level of cleric spells would be nice. and switching out the dual wielding for more skills points and a sword and board or dual-hander is probably a smart idea...i just think the TBS is a neat weapon...i should probably try it with a fighter build though. thanks, dmuzzy, for the warning. i knew the buffs would be easy to dispel, but a crowd would be very bad. this is where some other spells would need to be used i think. extended darkness (perhaps several) and ultravision should reduce crowd problems. but a problem to be aware for sure.
well, with those ideas in mind, the re-structure on the build, both in concept and in play is obvious...any others that i can implement would be of value. thanks to the above mentioned for their input.
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