The Drow Assassin - Monk(9), Shadowdancer(5), Assassin(26)

Race: Elf (subrace drow if you can). Playable 1-40, PvM or PVP (anything but high level spell caster)

This assassin has many abilities of the monk, with Epic Dodge, and Shadow Dancer levels, great sneaks, and a very efficient Death Attack.

He has little HPs, but isn't intended to go on the frontline.

Level 01: M(1): Dodge
Level 02: M(2)
Level 03: M(3): Weapon Finesse
Level 04: M(4): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
Level 05: M(5)
Level 06: M(6): Mobility
Level 07: M(7)
Level 08: M(8): DEX+1, (DEX=20)
Level 09: SD(1): Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 10: SD(2)
Level 11: SD(3)
Level 12: SD(4): DEX+1, Ambidexterity, (DEX=21)
Level 13: As(1)
Level 14: As(2)
Level 15: As(3): Improved Critical: Kama
Level 16: As(4): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
Level 17: As(5)
Level 18: As(6): Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 19: As(7)
Level 20: As(8): DEX+1, (DEX=23)
Level 21: M(9): Weapon Focus: Kama
Level 22: As(9)
Level 23: As(10)
Level 24: SD(5): DEX+1, Epic Weapon Focus: Kama, (DEX=24)
Level 25: As(11)
Level 26: As(12)
Level 27: As(13): Improved Initiative
Level 28: As(14): DEX+1, Superior Initiative, (DEX=25)
Level 29: As(15)
Level 30: As(16): Epic Dodge
Level 31: As(17)
Level 32: As(18): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=27)
Level 33: As(19): Armor Skin
Level 34: As(20)
Level 35: As(21)
Level 36: As(22): DEX+1, Great Dexterity II, Great Dexterity III, (DEX=30)
Level 37: As(23)
Level 38: As(24)
Level 39: As(25): Great Dexterity IV, (DEX=31)
Level 40: As(26): DEX+1, Great Dexterity V, (DEX=33)

Monk(9), Shadowdancer(5), Assassin(26), Elf

STR: 14
DEX: 18 (33)
CON: 10
WIS: 12
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Hitpoints: 268
Skillpoints: 268
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 19/20/37
BAB: 25
AB (max, naked): 39 (melee), 36 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 33/33
Death Attack: 38

Discipline 17(19), Heal 15(16), Hide 43(54), Listen 31(34), Move Silently 43(54), Set Trap 16(27), Spot 43(46), Tumble 40(51), UMD 20(19)

Level 01: Discipline(4), Heal(4), Hide(4), Listen(4), Move Silently(4), Tumble(4),
Level 02: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 03: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 04: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 05: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 06: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 07: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 08: Discipline(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1),
Level 09: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
Level 10: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
Level 11: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
Level 12: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
Level 13: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
Level 14: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
Level 15: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
Level 16: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
Level 17: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 18: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 19: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 20: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 21: Discipline(6),
Level 22: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 23: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 24: Hide(2), Move Silently(2), Spot(4),
Level 25: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(2), Tumble(2),
Level 26: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 27: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
Level 28: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spot(2), Tumble(2),
Level 29: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(2), Tumble(1),
Level 30: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(2), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 31: Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(2), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 32: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(2), Tumble(1),
Level 33: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 34: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 35: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 36: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 37: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
Level 38: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(2),
Level 39: Hide(1), Listen(2), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1),
Level 40: Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Set Trap(2), Spot(1)

Edited By griphook on 08/29/05 13:51

Why not take level 40 as Monk 10 to maximize Discipline? Thus ending Monk 10/SD 5/Assassin 25.

And leave your final Dex at 32.

Kaliban
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Quote: Posted 08/28/05 15:21:10 (GMT) -- lendorallen
UMD 20(19)

Your final UMD skill check, including your CHA modifier, should always, always, always be a multiple of 5. UMD skill only goes up every 5 points. Having a skill check of 19 is no better than a skill check of 15. So, shave a point off one of your other skills and drop it in here.

Oh, and I agree with Kaliban about going monk(10). Increasing your stat to an odd value is not worth getting smacked to the ground easily because of low discipline.

Steve

Quote: Posted 08/28/05 23:46:32 (GMT) -- Stravinsky00
Your final UMD skill check, including your CHA modifier, should always, always, always be a multiple of 5. UMD skill only goes up every 5 points. Having a skill check of 19 is no better than a skill check of 15. So, shave a point off one of your other skills and drop it in here.

Going slightly off-topic here, but what happens if the modified UMD skill is 19, you drink a potion of egles spendor to boost it to 20, equip an item that needs 20 UMD, and then the charisma boost expires? (sorry for the long sentence) Monk 10 also gives you one more point of AC.

As for the question on drinking a potion to raise UMD, the UMD'd item would stay equipped until you logged off. When you next log in, you will be unable to wear / use the item until you raise your UMD again.

If you happened to be a shifter and in a different form, then the UMD'd item would unequip like everything else on autosave (if your PW autosaves) and then fail to equip again until your UMD is high enough.

Quote: Posted 08/29/05 15:12:04 (GMT) -- pulse cap

Quote: Posted 08/28/05 23:46:32 (GMT) -- Stravinsky00
Your final UMD skill check, including your CHA modifier, should always, always, always be a multiple of 5. UMD skill only goes up every 5 points. Having a skill check of 19 is no better than a skill check of 15. So, shave a point off one of your other skills and drop it in here.

Going slightly off-topic here, but what happens if the modified UMD skill is 19, you drink a potion of egles spendor to boost it to 20, equip an item that needs 20 UMD, and then the charisma boost expires? (sorry for the long sentence)

Yeah, as Lego said. UMD is only checked while actually equipping the item. Once it's on, it's on until you unequipment it, But whenever you log on a server, all of your equipment is equipped only at that point, so if you log out and back in, the item will be in your inventory.

Steve Here's a version of the build, fixing a few issues namely:

- UMD to 20
- Dex on an even number
- Invested more into Discipline.

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M Level 01: M(1): Dodge
M Level 02: M(2)
M Level 03: M(3): Weapon Finesse
M Level 04: M(4): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
M Level 05: M(5)
M Level 06: M(6): Mobility
M Level 07: M(7)
M Level 08: M(8): DEX+1, (DEX=20)
SD Level 09: SD(1): Two-Weapon Fighting
SD Level 10: SD(2)
SD Level 11: SD(3)
SD Level 12: SD(4): DEX+1, AmbiDex, (DEX=21)
As Level 13: As(1)
As Level 14: As(2)
As Level 15: As(3): Improved Critical: Kama
As Level 16: As(4): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
As Level 17: As(5)
As Level 18: As(6): Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
As Level 19: As(7)
As Level 20: As(8): DEX+1, (DEX=23)
M Level 21: M(9): Weapon Focus: Kama
As Level 22: As(9)
As Level 23: As(10)
SD Level 24: SD(5): DEX+1, Epic Weapon Focus: Kama, (DEX=24)
As Level 25: As(11)
As Level 26: As(12)
As Level 27: As(13): Improved Initiative
As Level 28: As(14): DEX+1, Great Dex I, (DEX=26)
As Level 29: As(15)
As Level 30: As(16): Epic Dodge
As Level 31: As(17)
As Level 32: As(18): DEX+1, Great Dex II, (DEX=28)
As Level 33: As(19): Armor Skin
As Level 34: As(20)
As Level 35: As(21)
As Level 36: As(22): DEX+1, Great Dex III, Great Dex IV, (DEX=31)
As Level 37: As(23)
As Level 38: As(24)
As Level 39: As(25): Epic Prowess
M Level 40: M(10): DEX+1, (DEX=32)

Class Race Monk(10), Shadowdancer(5), Assassin(25), Elf

Abilies STR: 14
DEX: 18 (32)
CON: 10
WIS: 12
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Statistic Hitpoints: 270
Skillpoints: 268
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 19/20/37
BAB: 25
AB (max, naked): 40 (melee), 37 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 34/34
Spell Casting:

Skills Disc 27(29), Heal 15(16), Hide 42(53), Listen 21(24), MS 42(53), Set Trap 14(25), Spot 42(45), Tumble 40(51), UMD 21(20)

M Level 01: Disc(4), Heal(4), Hide(4), Listen(4), MS(4), Tumble(4),
M Level 02: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
M Level 03: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
M Level 04: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
M Level 05: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
M Level 06: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
M Level 07: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
M Level 08: Disc(1), Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Tumble(1),
SD Level 09: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
SD Level 10: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
SD Level 11: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
SD Level 12: Heal(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(3), Tumble(1),
As Level 13: Hide(1), MS(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
As Level 14: Hide(1), MS(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
As Level 15: Hide(1), MS(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
As Level 16: Hide(1), MS(1), Tumble(1), UMD(3),
As Level 17: Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
As Level 18: Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
As Level 19: Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
As Level 20: Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
M Level 21: Disc(6),
As Level 22: Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
As Level 23: Hide(1), Listen(1), MS(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
SD Level 24: Hide(2), MS(2), Spot(4),
As Level 25: Hide(1), MS(1), Spot(2), Tumble(2),
As Level 26: Hide(1), MS(1), Spot(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
As Level 27: Hide(1), MS(1), Spot(2), Tumble(1), UMD(1),
As Level 28: Hide(1), Spot(2), Tumble(2), UMD(1),
As Level 29: Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(2), Tumble(1),
As Level 30: Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(2), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
As Level 31: Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(2), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
As Level 32: Hide(1), MS(2), Set Trap(2), Tumble(1),
As Level 33: Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Save(1),
As Level 34: Disc(1), Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
As Level 35: Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Save(1),
As Level 36: Disc(1), Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1),
As Level 37: Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Save(1),
As Level 38: Disc(1), Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(2),
As Level 39: Disc(1), Hide(1), MS(1), Set Trap(1), Spot(1),
M Level 40: Disc(6),

Quote: Posted 08/29/05 21:34:28 (GMT) -- Stravinsky00

Quote: Posted 08/29/05 15:12:04 (GMT) -- pulse cap

Quote: Posted 08/28/05 23:46:32 (GMT) -- Stravinsky00
Your final UMD skill check, including your CHA modifier, should always, always, always be a multiple of 5. UMD skill only goes up every 5 points. Having a skill check of 19 is no better than a skill check of 15. So, shave a point off one of your other skills and drop it in here.

Going slightly off-topic here, but what happens if the modified UMD skill is 19, you drink a potion of egles spendor to boost it to 20, equip an item that needs 20 UMD, and then the charisma boost expires? (sorry for the long sentence)

Yeah, as Lego said. UMD is only checked while actually equipping the item. Once it's on, it's on until you unequipment it, But whenever you log on a server, all of your equipment is equipped only at that point, so if you log out and back in, the item will be in your inventory.

Steve

If you log off with an equipped item that you should not be able to use because of lvl restrictions it can happen that you won't be able to log back at all if the server has item lvl restriction activated. At least that's what happened to me

Quote: Posted 08/28/05 15:21:10 (GMT) -- lendorallen

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Monk(9), Shadowdancer(5), Assassin(26), Elf

STR: 14
DEX: 18 (33)
CON: 10
WIS: 12
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Hitpoints: 268
Skillpoints: 268
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 19/20/37
BAB: 25
AB (max, naked): 39 (melee), 36 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 33/33
Death Attack: 38

...

I would trade of the 14 in strength, for a 12 in Con and 14 in Wis. This results in a higher AC and higher HPs, while only losing +2 in damage. Sicne your damage is not coming from strength, little is lost. especially with the great DA. just an idea for a little change. not really necessary, but an option.

-c I have a question about a very similar build to this one. a 10 monk 10 shadowdancer 20 assassin. If I remember right an assassin dose not get the improved evasion ability but a shadowdancer dose at lvl 10 pluss uncanny dodge 3. Is the 5 extra lvls of assassin worth more then the added feats of the shadowdancer. I know the DC on Death attack is calculated with lvls as well as intel, just wondering if the trade off is worth it?

Quote: Posted 03/16/06 05:07:46 (GMT) -- Bulragus

I have a question about a very similar build to this one. a 10 monk 10 shadowdancer 20 assassin. If I remember right an assassin dose not get the improved evasion ability but a shadowdancer dose at lvl 10 pluss uncanny dodge 3. Is the 5 extra lvls of assassin worth more then the added feats of the shadowdancer. I know the DC on Death attack is calculated with lvls as well as intel, just wondering if the trade off is worth it?

Generally, if you have 10 levels of Monk, there is no need for 10lvels of SD. 5 SD is all that is needed, perhaps 7. In the build you suggest, 10Monk/5SD/25Assn seems a lot more lethal and dangerous than a 10/10/20.
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE! I would drop Improved Initiative for Epic Prowess. With HiPS, you should be getting the first attack anyway, and Epic Prowess will help make sure it actually hits.

TM