Final Stats STR 12, DEX 32, CON 12, INT 14, WIS 10, CHA 10 Hitpoints: 356 Skillpoints: 316 Saving Throws (Fort/Will/Ref):21/21/34 +4 vs. spells AC (naked): 32/ 34 w mundane lg. shield BAB: 29 AB (max, naked): 46 (melee), 43 (ranged) Damage: 1d6+1(STR)+6(WS)+11d6 Sneak Attack
SKILL PROGRESSION Legend D = Discipline, DT = Disable Traps, H = Hide, I = Intimidate, L = Listen, MS = Move Silently, OL= Open Lock P = Persuade, S = Search, SC = SpellCraft, Sp = Spot, T = Tumble, UMD = UMD
LVL SKILLS
1 DT 4, H 4, I 4, MS 4, OL 4, P 4, PP 4, S 4, T 4, UMD 4 save 4 2 D 4 save 4 3 D 2 save 6 4 D 1 save 9 5 D 1 save 12 6 D 1 save 15 7 DT 1, H 4, MS 1, P 1, S 6, T 6, UMD 6 8 D 2 save 2 9 D 1 save 5 10 D 1 save 8 11 D 1 save 11 12 DT 1, H 4, SC 3, T 5, UMD 5 13 D 2 save 2 14 D 1 save 5 15 D 1 save 8 16 D 1 save 11 17 DT 1, SC 5, T 5, UMD 5 18 D 2 save 2 19 D 1 save 5 20 D 1 save 8 21 DT 1, H 4, MS 4, S 1, T 4, UMD 4 22 D 2 save 2 23 H 1, L 2, MS 1, S 4, Sp 2, T 2 save 1 24 H 1, L 1, MS 5, Sp 1, T 1 save 2 25 H 1, MS 1, T1 save 8 26 H 1, L 1, MS 5, Sp 1, T 1 save 18 27 D 5, SC 5 save 2 28 H 1, L 1, MS 6, Sp 1, T 2 save 1 29 H 1, L 1, MS 7, Sp 1, T 1 30 H 5, MS 3, T 1 save 1 31 H 7, L 1, MS 1, Sp 1, T 1 32 H 1, MS 1, T 1 save 7 33 H 1, L 1, MS 1, T 1, P 3, Sp 1, T 1 save 9 34 H 1, MS 1, T 1, P 3, T 1 save 13 35 H 1, L 1, MS 1, T 1, P 3, Sp 1, T 1 save 15 36 H 1, MS 1, T 1, P 3, T 1 save 19 37 D 10, SC 5 save 3 38 H 2, L 1, MS 2, P 4, Sp 2, T 2 39 H 1, MS 1, P2, SP 1, T 1 40 H 1, MS 1, P2, SP 1, T 1
Some final thoughts: You might want to change called shot at level 9 for knockdown. If you feel you can compensate for a low will (because of magic items) feel free to replace Epic Will at lvl 21 with a feat of your choosing. Finaly it might be better from a role-playing perspective to not take Spell Craft as a skill. If you agree with this, I would suggest Appraise 15 and Lore 25.
Until next time, never underestimate the little guy.
.... .... .... .... griphook ..Added Link _________________ When you think about it, is the memory of a real event, any more 'real' than the memory of a fictional event?
Some final thoughts: You might want to change called shot at level 9 for knockdown. If you feel you can compensate for a low will (because of magic items) feel free to replace Epic Will at lvl 21 with a feat of your choosing. Finaly it might be better from a role-playing perspective to not take Spell Craft as a skill. If you agree with this, I would suggest Appraise 15 and Lore 25.
Until next time, never underestimate the little guy.
i wouldn't trade knockdown in a rogue build unless the mod i was playing seemed to feature a lot of KD immune baddies. KD gives you a change to sneak, which is important for any rogue build as a way to generate sneaks, especially when you don't have spells or HiPS to help out. In general I would say Take Advantage of KD! but personal choices are always good.
since rogues are those who are skillfull, wouldn't it make sense, rp-wise, that he should try to study the arcane without studying under a teacher, so that UMD and spellcraft make sense? but again, that is just my view.
-c _________________ "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger."
Kalisman77,
Another tough melee rogue! Nice job. Heh, on reading your build I was surprised to see no Knockdown/Imp. Knockdown and was already forming my response. But then I reached the bottom of the build and saw your comments on how best to build in Knockdown. I still think this build should definitely have KD and IKD...
Why don't you take Epic Wpn Focus at level 21 (Rogue 5) and then take Epic Wpn Spec at level 22 (Fighter 10)? Otherwise, if you're going to delay Epic Wpn Spec until level 37 I'd consider delaying Fighter 10 until level 40 and end as Rogue 23/Fighter 10/WM 7.
Nice job.
Kaliban. _________________ Have fun storming the castle!
Another tough melee rogue! Nice job. Heh, on reading your build I was surprised to see no Knockdown/Imp. Knockdown and was already forming my response. But then I reached the bottom of the build and saw your comments on how best to build in Knockdown. I still think this build should definitely have KD and IKD...
Why don't you take Epic Wpn Focus at level 21 (Rogue 5) and then take Epic Wpn Spec at level 22 (Fighter 10)? Otherwise, if you're going to delay Epic Wpn Spec until level 37 I'd consider delaying Fighter 10 until level 40 and end as Rogue 23/Fighter 10/WM 7.
Nice job.
Kaliban.
Thanks. So ... taking EWF at lvl 21, and EWS at 22 you would also suggest IKD at lvl 37? _________________ When you think about it, is the memory of a real event, any more 'real' than the memory of a fictional event?
Are you taking Fighter at 37 to also maximize Discipline? Apparently, so my advice to stop at Fighter 10 (taken at level 22) isn't so hot. In that case, I'd advise sticking with your Rogue 21/Ftr 12/WM 7 build, but do it like this: