This is a build for a dragon who takes advantage of the monk's abilities to add to his own when shapeshifted.

playable 1 - 40 PvM

Starting stats/ending stats (I used a dwarf for the +2 con)

STR:10/10
DEX:13/14 (dodge/mobility)
CON:15/16
WIS:18/30
INT:10/30
CHA:6/6

Ending HP: 403/823 human/dragon form

1-16 (monk)- put all ability points to wisdom, get melee oriented feats. you may want to use a kama during this time because your strength is a weak 10.

17-34 (druid) - here you gain your buffing abilities. put all ability increases to wisdom and take the great wisdom feats until you hit 30. At level 17, you will be able to take dragon shape.

35-40 (monk) get ki strike 4 and 5 to give your dragon a +5 enhancement!

you end up with 5 unarmed attacks per round at

26/23/20/17/14 (not too hot) but a whopping naked AC of 34!

Shapeshift into dragon form and your dragon has a naked AC of 65 and 5 unarmed attacks of 45/42/39/36/33!

remember, this is unbuffed, so let's see what happens when we add the following buff spells:

Bull's Strength
Barkskin
Owl's Insight
Aura of Vitality

Our naked (dragon) AC becomes an even more impressive 76 and our attack bonus starts at 49! this is without any items on his body, whatsoever!

A dragon is no slouch of an enemy with fort, reflex, and will saves of 38/37/39.

Feats/abilities important to note:

perfect self (monk)
immunity to sneak attack (dragon)
quiver palm (monk) - works in dragon form!
flurry of blows (monk) - works in dragon form!
true seeing (dragon)
immunity to paralysis (dragon)
fire/electric/poison.disease immunity - depends on dragon form

Edited By griphook on 10/03/05 01:05

Dragons already get +6 enchantment.. also.. why 3 more monk.. 3 more SR isn't really gonna make to much difference..

-DaMouse
Quote: Posted 09/08/05 14:20:37 (GMT) -- PfhorAiur

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INT:10/30 !!!

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17-34 (druid) - here you gain your buffing abilities. put all ability increases to wisdom and take the great wisdom feats until you hit 30. At level 17, you will be able to take dragon shape.

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just wanted to mention two quick, but important typos. i don't think INT will be raised to 30, and you get draogn shape at 34 instead of 17.

just to note, you could have used a third class, like SD or Rogue, instead of those last 3 monk levels. that would keep your AC bonus in non-shifted form through uncanny dodge, as well as give a skillpoint boost and access to a few more skills.

i have never seen a dragon build that wasn't strong. something funny about a pious dragon monk (to me at least, but i am a little weird)

-c
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Quote: just wanted to mention two quick, but important typos. i don't think INT will be raised to 30, and you get draogn shape at 34 instead of 17.


He means at lvl 17 DRUID! The other one is a typo, tho. You can easily mix in some Druid levels pre epic, just keep the classes in bulks of 4, f.ex. 8/12. That would probably make him more playable early on. I agree with Christian however on that you don't need 23 monk, since monk has done his job on lvl 18. That gives you 5 levels to spare. Rogue or SD would be a good choice, or fighter to improve damage unarmed. In Dragonform you only have physical damage, and you need to get through DR on your opponents.

edit: You will lose 1 AC if you don't take mionk all the way to 20, tho. If thats a loss compared to uncanny dodge OR 6 extra damage.

PS. Your build is really hard to advice, since you keep us starved on info and levelling.

Edited By Grimnir77 on 09/09/05 15:38

Quote: Posted 09/09/05 15:34:19 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

Quote: just wanted to mention two quick, but important typos. i don't think INT will be raised to 30, and you get draogn shape at 34 instead of 17.


He means at lvl 17 DRUID!


sorry, but do you mean to tell me that at level 17 this build can get dragon shape , which requires 30 in Wisdom, and i believe must be taken in (and can only be achieved in) epic levels. if so, then this build has the (immensely huge and scaly) leg up on every other dragon build have ever seen.

but maybe i just misread your post as well, in which case, i apologise, but i request clarification.

thanks.

-c
Quote: Posted 09/10/05 00:17:02 (GMT) -- christian.schnabel

Quote: Posted 09/09/05 15:34:19 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

Quote: just wanted to mention two quick, but important typos. i don't think INT will be raised to 30, and you get draogn shape at 34 instead of 17.


He means at lvl 17 DRUID!


sorry, but do you mean to tell me that at level 17 this build can get dragon shape , which requires 30 in Wisdom, and i believe must be taken in (and can only be achieved in) epic levels. if so, then this build has the (immensely huge and scaly) leg up on every other dragon build have ever seen.

but maybe i just misread your post as well, in which case, i apologise, but i request clarification.

thanks.

-c

Yes, you are still misreading it. The build takes 17 levels of monk and then 17 levels of druid. By his 17th level of druid, which is his 34th level overall, he will meet all the requirements for Dragon Shape. In fact, this build can actually get Dragon Shape at druid level 16. It takes druid level 16 at character level 33. The build starts with WIS 18. If, as the author says, you take its stat boosts in WIS (which would be +8 by level 32) and "take the great wisdom feats until you hit 30" (+4 from epic levels 21, 24, 27, and 30), you would hit WIS 30 by character level 32, and can take Dragon Shape on his 16th druid level, which he takes at character level 33.

Steve Was it changed in one of the recent patches with shifted forms and being unarmed? Last I checked forms like dragon shape had natural weapons that interfered with monk unarmed bonus.
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Click Here I think that was changed in 1.65, since now all feats with unarmed(EWF, EWS, Imp crit etc.) applies in forms that use unarmed attacks, at least in Dragonform. Sorry, the Int is a typo - it should be 10/10. I don't know how I managed to hit 3, but I guess I did!

And yes taking dragon shape is at the 17th druid level in this case, not the 17th character level.

First time posting a build and I did it in a bit of haste, sorry for the errors and lack of clarification.

Edited By PfhorAiur on 09/10/05 15:34

Quote: Posted 09/10/05 15:27:23 (GMT) -- PfhorAiur
And yes taking dragon shape is at the 17th druid level in this case, not the
17th character level.

Actually, as I posted above, it's at the 16th level of druid. You don't have a feat on your 17th druid level (character level 34).

Steve

Edited By Stravinsky00 on 09/10/05 18:06