After reading through Cinnabar Din's Harper Scout thread, I decided I had to make one. And since I'm still in love with Bards (and Blackguards), this is what I came up with. First of its kind, by the way
playable 1 - 40 PvM perhaps a little fragile until level 10 or so.
Introduction: Unholy Harper
Highlights: Stacking Bull's Strengths Stacking Eagle's Splendours level 16 Bard/Curse Song decent saves which are easily boosted to 30+ decent (buffed) AB nice damage output nice (buffed) AC nice number of skills and skill points good Taunt
NOTE: 2 alignment shifts (after levels 16 and 21).
1. Bard1 - Lingering Song/Iron Will 2. Bard2 3. Bard3 - Power Attack 4. Bard4 5. Bard5 6. Bard6 - Cleave 7. Bard7 8. Bard8 9. Blackguard1 - Weapon Focus 10. Blackguard2 11. Blackguard3 12. Blackguard4 - Divine Might 13. Blackguard5 14. Blackguard6 15. Blackguard7 - Alertness 16. Blackguard8 ~ to Good 17. HS1 * Curse Song 18. HS2 - Knockdown 19. HS3 20. HS4 21. HS5 - Great Charisma I * Great Charisma II ~ to Evil 22. Bard9 23. Blackguard9 24. Blackguard10 - Divine Shield 25. Blackguard11 26. Blackguard12 27. Bard10 - Epic Skill Focus: Taunt 28. Blackguard13 * Epic Weapon Focus 29. Blackguard14 30. Blackguard15 - Great Charisma III 31. Blackguard16 * Epic Prowess 32. Bard11 33. Bard12 - Great Charisma IV 34. Bard13 35. Bard14 36. Blackguard17 - Great Charisma V 37. Bard15 38. Blackguard18 39. Blackguard19 - Toughness * Armor Skin 40. Bard16
NOTE: Blind-Fight and Still Spell aren't there - one could, for example, sacrifice Toughness and Knockdown for them. Or perhaps 2 Great Charisma. I have never tried the Epic Fiendish Servant, so I don't know if it's useful (is it?).
Distribution ------------ Bard 16/Blackguard 19/Harper Scout 5
Statistics:
AB -- 27 Base +8 Strength +3 Epic Weapon Focus +1 Epic Prowess -- 39 +5 2 Bull's Strengths +5 Greater Magic Weapon +2 War Cry +2 Bard Song -- 53 +5 Curse Song +6 Taunt -- 64
NOTE: Harper Scouts get Cat's Grace, don't pick it as a Bard spell.
Also, Bard/Blackguard is so evil
Any suggestions or ideas?
Thank you.
EDIT: AC and HP breakdown :s _________________ " -- They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more."
- Pozzo in Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett
Edited By FinneousPJ on 05/28/07 12:53
Very nice. the blackguard is your friend. At least he's mine. Getting a good CHA synergy here. I would have taken All harper scout levels epic, getting both Great CHA feats from it, staring Con 12 CHA 16. Potayto/potatoe. Remeber that you have 1 use of Smite good here, doing "only" 19 extra damage, but getting a nice bonus to hit, Be sure to connect that first sneak attack . Doing that CHA thing would make you lose something, so I'm not sure it's worth it. Regarding Blind fight. Take it. Remember that when in Darkness you do sneak attacks. Make sure most of those hits.
Other than that, very nice. I like blackguards, second to Ranger. Anyone who makes a powerful Blackguard has earned my respect.
Very nice. the blackguard is your friend. At least he's mine. Getting a good CHA synergy here. I would have taken All harper scout levels epic, getting both Great CHA feats from it, staring Con 12 CHA 16. Potayto/potatoe.
The HP is terribly low as it is - I wouldn't recommend lowering Constitution.
Quote: Remeber that you have 1 use of Smite good here, doing "only" 19 extra damage, but getting a nice bonus to hit, Be sure to connect that first sneak attack .
Yeah the Smite Good is a nice extra. I had forgotten about it completely
Quote: Doing that CHA thing would make you lose something, so I'm not sure it's worth it. Regarding Blind fight. Take it. Remember that when in Darkness you do sneak attacks. Make sure most of those hits.
Again, the HP is very low. If you lose Toughness for Blind-Fight you're left with 396 HP. And on the other hand, dropping Knockdown for Blind-Fight to get Sneak Attacks is, in my humble opinion, somewhat stupid
Quote: Other than that, very nice. I like blackguards, second to Ranger. Anyone who makes a powerful Blackguard has earned my respect.
Thanksthanks I've a Ranger build waiting somewhere. Not sure if I'll post it though, as it's novelty ;F _________________ Now is my day's work done; I'll take good breath: Rest, sword; thou hast thy fill of blood and death.
Darkness with Blindfight does more than Toughness. It gives you 50% concealment, which quickly nets you more longevity than 40 hp's. And you connect sneak attacks to all that does not have ultravision. There exists more people with high Discipline than with Ultravision. It also protects you from spells. But I think KD is a very useful feat to! (Not in PvP on the PW I play, where immune to KD is abundant ) If you don't get access to Darkness, Blindfight still helps you fight those concealed opponents to. So, i would have taken it, but it's close race. With Ultravision scrolls availible, even closer.
I guess Blind-Fight over Toughness is worthwhile, then. If Darkness + Improved Invisibility "stack" (attacker miss chance + defender concealment), it should prove extremely effective. However I would keep Knockdown. _________________ Now is my day's work done; I'll take good breath: Rest, sword; thou hast thy fill of blood and death.
After reading through Cinnabar Din's Harper Scout thread, I decided I had to make one.
playable 1 - 40 PvM perhaps a little fragile until level 10 or so.
NOTE: 2 alignment shifts (after levels 16 and 21).
1. Bard1 - Lingering Song/Iron Will 2. Bard2 3. Bard3 - Power Attack 4. Bard4 5. Bard5 6. Bard6 - Cleave 7. Bard7 8. Bard8 9. Blackguard1 - Weapon Focus 10. Blackguard2 11. Blackguard3 12. Blackguard4 - Divine Might 13. Blackguard5 14. Blackguard6 15. Blackguard7 - Alertness 16. Blackguard8 ~ to Good 17. HS1 * Curse Song 18. HS2 - Knockdown 19. HS3 20. HS4 21. HS5 - Great Charisma I * Great Charisma II ~ to Evil 22. Bard9 23. Blackguard9 24. Blackguard10 - Divine Shield 25. Blackguard11 26. Blackguard12 27. Bard10 - Epic Skill Focus: Taunt 28. Blackguard13 * Epic Weapon Focus 29. Blackguard14 30. Blackguard15 - Great Charisma III 31. Blackguard16 * Epic Prowess 32. Bard11 33. Bard12 - Great Charisma IV 34. Bard13 35. Bard14 36. Blackguard17 - Great Charisma V 37. Bard15 38. Blackguard18 39. Blackguard19 - Toughness * Armor Skin 40. Bard16
Intersting idea. WHat i suggest is take the blackguard/bard lvls as far as you can (bg19/bard13ish) THEN switch alignments ONLY ONE TIME, from neutral/chaotic evil to neutral/chaotic good. THis would lend your toon alot more credibility, instead of it being an obvious powergame build, built with no understanding of what a character goes through to get to 40. Besides, the 2 extra bg lvls pre would net you 2 ab (if im not mistaken, bg/ftr/pal/dd/wm get 1ab/lvl, harpers get 3/4lvls??)
PEACE
Quote: Posted 10/09/05 22:17:49 (GMT) -- avado Intersting idea. WHat i suggest is take the blackguard/bard lvls as far as you can (bg19/bard13ish) THEN switch alignments ONLY ONE TIME, from neutral/chaotic evil to neutral/chaotic good. THis would lend your toon alot more credibility, instead of it being an obvious powergame build, built with no understanding of what a character goes through to get to 40. Besides, the 2 extra bg lvls pre would net you 2 ab (if im not mistaken, bg/ftr/pal/dd/wm get 1ab/lvl, harpers get 3/4lvls??)
PEACE
I didn't quite understand what you meant, but 2 extra Blackguard levels would not give extra AB. This is what I have now:
No difference whatsoever (17.5 gets rounded down). Sad but true~
Sorry mate ;x
And thanks for the interesting idea comment _________________ Now is my day's work done; I'll take good breath: Rest, sword; thou hast thy fill of blood and death.
. Doing that CHA thing would make you lose something, so I'm not sure it's worth it. Regarding Blind fight. Take it. Remember that when in Darkness you do sneak attacks. Make sure most of those hits.
Getting a good CHA synergy here. I would have taken All harper scout levels epic, getting both Great CHA feats from it, staring Con 12 CHA 16. Potayto/potatoe. 
) If you don't get access to Darkness, Blindfight still helps you fight those concealed opponents to. So, i would have taken it, but it's close race. With Ultravision scrolls availible, even closer.
I guess Blind-Fight over Toughness is worthwhile, then. If Darkness + Improved Invisibility "stack" (attacker miss chance + defender concealment), it should prove extremely effective. However I would keep Knockdown.