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Here's another revised version of the... Concealed Wall /Rogue 16/DwD 22/Fighter 2 Concealed Wall V..2 ED/SCIV /Rogue 19/DwD 19/Fighter 2 getting ED, SC V, DR 9/-, losing -2 AC (had to drop AS), -1 AB (had to drop EP). It gets more sneaks though plus lotsa skill points. In my OP I already planned this build but never posted the lvl up. Enjoy it Concealed Wall V.3 (Rogue 24/Dwarven Defender 14/Fighter 2) Dwarf, any lawfulPvM, playable 1-40 STR 12 CON 14 DEX 18 (32) INT 14 WIS 8 CHA 6 HP (DS): 452 (532) SkP: 334 BAB: 28 AB: 42, 4 att/round (mundane rapier) AC (naked/tower shield): 29/32 (33/36 in DS) DR 9/- SAVES (vs spell) For: 24 (30) +2 DS Ref: 25 (31) +2 DS Will: 20 (26) +2 DS SKILLS Discipline 43 Hide 42 Move Silently 42 Tumble 40 UMD 42 Spellcraft 18 89 points leftover (Set/Disable traps come to mind) 1 Rogue 1 Toughness 2 Rogue 2 3 Rogue 3 Weapon Finesse 4 Fighter 1 WF (rapier), Dex (Dex 19) 5 Fighter 2 KD 6 Rogue 4 Dodge 7 Rogue 5 8 Rogue 6 Dex (Dex 20) 9 Rogue 7 IKD 10 Dw.Def. 1 11 Dw.Def. 2 12 Dw.Def. 3 Improved Critical, Dex (Dex 21) 13 Dw.Def. 4 14 Dw.Def. 5 15 Dw.Def. 6 Iron Will* 16 Dw.Def. 7 Dex (Dex 22) 17 Rogue 8 18 Dw.Def. 8 Blind Fighting* 19 Dw.Def. 9 20 Dw.Def. 10 Dex (Dex 23) 21 Rogue 9 Great Dex (Dex 24) 22 Rogue 10 Improved Evasion 23 Rogue 11 24 Rogue 12 Great Dex, Dex (Dex 26) 25 Rogue 13 Defensive Roll 26 Rogue 14 27 Rogue 15 Great Dex (Dex 27) 28 Rogue 16 Epic Dodge, Dex (Dex 28) 29 Dw.Def. 11 30 Dw.Def. 12 Great Dex (Dex 29) 31 Dw.Def. 13 32 Rogue 17 Dex (Dex 30) 33 Rogue 18 SCI 34 Rogue 19 SCII 35 Rogue 20 36 Rogue 21 SCIII, Dex (Dex 31) 37 Rogue 22 38 Rogue 23 39 Rogue 24 SCIV, SCV 40 Dw.Def. 14 Dex (Dex 32) Alternative lvl up, moving FTR lvls in epic to get EP and AS. EP offsets the -1 AB caused by the 9th rogue lvl pre-epic. You lose 2 feats pre-epic (blind fighting and iron will in my version) but get +2 AC. Worth considering the tradeoff. 1 Rogue 1 Toughness 2 Rogue 2 3 Rogue 3 Weapon Finesse 4 Rogue 4 5 Rogue 5 6 Rogue 6 WF 7 Rogue 7 8 Rogue 8 9 Rogue 9 Dodge 10 Rogue 10 Improved Evasion 11 Dw.Def. 1 12 Dw.Def. 2 Improved Critical 13 Dw.Def. 3 14 Dw.Def. 4 15 Dw.Def. 5 KD 16 Dw.Def. 6 17 Dw.Def. 7 18 Dw.Def. 8 IKD 19 Dw.Def. 9 20 Dw.Def. 10 21 Fighter 1 Great Dex, EWF 22 Fighter 2 Epic Prowess 23 Rogue 11 24 Rogue 12 Great Dex 25 Rogue 13 Defensive Roll 26 Rogue 14 27 Rogue 15 Great Dex 28 Rogue 16 Epic Dodge 29 Dw.Def. 11 30 Dw.Def. 12 Great Dex 31 Dw.Def. 13 32 Rogue 17 33 Rogue 18 SCI 34 Rogue 19 SCII 35 Rogue 20 36 Rogue 21 SCIII 37 Rogue 22 38 Rogue 23 39 Rogue 24 SCIV, SCV 40 Dw.Def. 14 Armor Skin AB: 42 AC,naked: 31 For 24 Ref 25 Will 18 The rest should be the same …. …. …. …. …. ….griphook ..Added Links _________________ Dilegua notte Tramontate stelle Tramontate stelle All'alba vinceṛ Vinceṛ VinceṛEdited By griphook on 10/31/05 00:39