This is a sort-of rework of that Ranger 16/Rogue 13/Monk 11 build I posted with a different class breakdown and better damage-output against sneak-vulnerable enemies and better saves but maintaining flexibility. I really like the idea of a stealther with monk-speed (who says you need to walk slow by going into stealth mode?) but keeping decent damage output. The other builds with these classes seemed to focus more on the monk-side rather than the rogue's but I like the latter better The only things missing are HiPS and SC but I guess you can't have everything.
There was a possibility of getting SC IV easily using either Elf or Halfling as the starting race but the Elf would incur an Exp Penalty through most of the late Epic levels while the Halfling cannot dual-wield kamas without a -4 penalty. I could have gotten it with Human but it would probably mean putting WIS down to 8 and taking DEX to 18 at the start, taking 2 more Great DEX in Epic and using the last 2 General and Rogue feats on SC. It's probably worth it but... I guess I'll let you decide (advice anyone? ). Starting with WIS 14 and DEX 16, you can only get SC II I think which I didn't really think was worth it.
Race: Human Alignment: any lawful, non-evil 1-40 PvM
Search: 20(22) Disable Trap: 12(16) Set Traps: 13(25)
+117 to invest in other useful skills like Heal, Spot or Listen, Open Locks, Spellcraft, etc.
***** ***** ***** ***** griphookCorrected starting stat str typo _________________ .:\_/:. Only those who have known darkness in (OvO) their hearts will see the shadows in life... (|__|) ..".."..
Edited By griphook on 11/13/05 16:27
Holy Infiltrator (SC V, Elf, kama focii only)
Race: Elf - (gets an EXP-panalty in the 20s) Alignment: LG or LN 1-40 PvM
I'm playing this character through Shadowlords/Dreamcatcher/Demon etc. As long as you don't get torn to shreds before you hit level 3 (hide behind a henchie) and get Weapon Finesse, you should do fine and things get much nicer when you get Ambi
21: Champion of Torm(5): Great Dexterity I, (DEX=24) 22: Champion of Torm(6): Epic Weapon Focus: Kama 23: Rogue(9) 24: Monk(9): DEX+1, Great Dexterity II, M: (Improved Evasion), (DEX=26) 25: Rogue(10): Defensive Roll 26: Rogue(11) <- 20% EXP penalty starts here for the rest of Epic levels 27: Rogue(12): Great Dexterity III, (DEX=27) 28: Rogue(13): DEX+1, Epic Dodge, (DEX=28) 29: Champion of Torm(7) 30: Champion of Torm(8): Great Dexterity IV, Epic Prowess, (DEX=29) 31: Champion of Torm(9) 32: Champion of Torm(10): DEX+1, Armor Skin*, (DEX=30) 33: Rogue(14): Self Concealment I 34: Rogue(15) 35: Rogue(16): Self Concealment II 36: Monk(10): DEX+1, Self Concealment III, (DEX=31) 37: Rogue(17) 38: Rogue(18) 39: Rogue(19): Self Concealment IV, Self Concealment V 40: Monk(11): DEX+1, (DEX=32)
Max rerolled HP: 382 BAB: 26 AB (dual-wielding mundane kamas): +39/36/33/29/26/23, +39/34 AB (ranged): 38
Search: 18(22) Disable Trap: 12(16) Set Trap: 12(25)
+74 to distribute how you like - possibly 10 more into Disable Traps to be able to recover most things, maybe some more into Set Traps, max Listen or Spot, some into Heal or Persuade, CC Spellcraft to 18 base ranks for +4 to saves vs. spells, etc...
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The first build posted above should start with 10 STR I think, not 14 *sigh* _________________ .:\_/:. Only those who have known darkness in (OvO) their hearts will see the shadows in life... (|__|) ..".."..
Edited By Jennalee on 11/13/05 09:22
seeing some sneak attacking monk flying around in stealth with those saves makes me nervous...better buff up or stay hidden. hope this monk doesn't infiltrate my home, or else i will have to start barring the door!
i like the rework, although i still think the original is pretty nifty. tough little sod. elf seems an option, but the SC probably isn't that critical. ED is there, and coupled with UMD impr invis is probbably fine in most cases.
nicely done, as usual. _________________ "Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things." - Miyamoto Musashi
I've finally gotten round' to testing my chars. I most especially wanted to test this gal since I've been playing her (the SC V version).
She could easily dispatch the level 40 adventurers in the Novice to Epic Character Maker module with mundane gear but had extreme trouble with the monsters deemed suitable for level 40 with mundane gear who were sneak immune and had DR. So unless you have weapons enchanted enough to byass DR or a steady supply of scrolls, wands and traps, don't expect to fight such things. However, they also had a very very hard time killing me.
Damage without sneaks and normal weapons was very low but with enough attacks per round and very good defenses, I found I could outlast most things. To my surprise, I also found the will save too low to fight that nasty dracolich without getting feared all the time (somehow, I had a whole string of low rolls) and kept dying to the prismatic dragon's prismatic spray death effect (he's HARD to hit). Oh well. _________________ .:\_/:. Only those who have known darkness in (OvO) their hearts will see the shadows in life... (|__|) ..".."..
The only things missing are HiPS and SC but I guess you can't have everything.
). Starting with WIS 14 and DEX 16, you can only get SC II I think which I didn't really think was worth it.