AB (mundane Greatsword) +43 AB (mundane Greatsword + terrifying rage) +46
Crit range with mundane Greatsword 15-20 x3
AC 21 (with normale full plate)
HP 560 (random rolls, not max) HP 680 (while in rage)
DR 11/- (You should be a real nightmare for DEX melee-types)
I tried putting in thundering rage (which adds another 2d8dmg to crit), but i didnt see how i could get that in the build
Edited By griphook on 11/30/05 23:09
You may be able to get thundering rage - you've missed 2 feats at level 9 (a general and CoT bonus) so I'd suggest you move Blind Fight to pre-epic so you end up being able to use it most of pre-epic (concealed enemies, help combat having to fight in Darkness) and drop Power Attack/Cleave which is less useful as you go up in levels. This will also let you get to WM earlier. I'd also suggest you take Heavy Armor prof. at level 1 rather than so late - you'll want it much ealier than you took it.
Also, how did you allocate skillpoints? Didn't look like you crossclassed into Tumble, nor took Armor Skin. Your ending AC is low so I'd suggest getting those, and using a shield.
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Edited By Jennalee on 12/01/05 07:36
Oh dang at level 9 you should take dodge and mobility to get the requirements for WM
So level 9 CoT take dodge and mobility
Thanks for your comment Jennalee, but unfortunaly i cant drop power attack/cleave because you need it to get CoT. I tried putting in heavy armor profiency earlier, but its not possible. All the feats before level 12 are needed to advance in the two other classes, begin CoT and WM.
As for the skills (sorry forgot that) i crossclassed into tumble for the obvious reason. Maxed out discipline and intimidate. Ive put the leftovers in heal. (no heal potions available on the server i play on)
As for Armor skin, really love that feat and would certainly want to include it in my build, but how...i have absolutely no idea, i dont seem to have enough room left to put in that feat. Unless i drop a GS, but i dont know if thats worth it. Epic skill focus intimidate is another feat i badly wanted, but couldnt fit that one in either
Edited By Tionus on 12/01/05 15:23
Power Attack/Cleave are not required for CoT. _________________ Now is my day's work done; I'll take good breath: Rest, sword; thou hast thy fill of blood and death.
Ok then - Build your character offline in a leveling module before posting it here as a 'complete and viable' build.
Otherwise, state "This was drawn up on paper so there may be errors".
(Cleave is only required for Blackguard, not CoT).
Just so you know, ive tested the build in an offline module. Im new to builds so im not gonna post a build that i havent tested. So dont make any false statements about what i have/havent done.
I could have sworn power attack/cleave were needed for CoT, but i guess ive mistaken it with BG. Ive never looked wether or not it was required, i just assumed it was, so for that you can blame me.
Ill see if i can redo the build and post an updated version later on.
Btw how would i otherwise know the AB and such? So think before making false accusiations
Edited By Tionus on 12/01/05 19:39
Quote: Posted 12/01/05 19:36:06 (GMT) -- Tionus Btw how would i otherwise know the AB and such? So think before making false accusiations
It's easy to calculate all that on paper. I do it with all my builds, then double check in the leveller to see if my calculations were correct.
And I'm 100% certain Kaliban was just trying to help, not trying to be mean. _________________ Wave upon wave of demented avengers marched cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream...
While you're re-building I'd suggest changing to scimitar and shield, the extra strength damage from a two handed weapon is nice, but this character is hurting badly in the AC department. The scimitar's extended crit range backed with WM bonuses will make up a little for the lost damage bonus. _________________ Experience is the mother of good judgement; bad judgement is the father of experience.
God of War wielding a toothpick and hiding behind a towershield
Why should he rebuild his character? Besides the missing Dodge/Mobility feats at level 9 there's nothing wrong with the build. And Power Attack/Cleave might not be neccessary for CoT but they are good feats and every 'God of War' should be able to cleave. Actually I think I miss 'Greater Cleave' .
[edit]I would probably start with barbarian(10)/CoT(4)/WM(6) for +1 to all saving throws but that's just a minor point I guess.[/edit] _________________ Character Build Calculator(works with Excel, Open Office) 2.83: updated to NWN 1.69.
Edited By Kamiryn on 12/02/05 11:24
What about going something like this?
Dwarf, non-lawful/non-evil
STR 15 (26) DEX 14 CON 18 (22) INT 14 WIS 8 CHA 6
1 Barb 1 WF: Great Axe or Battle Axe 2 Barb 2 3 Barb 3 Heavy Armor 4 Barb 4 STR 16 5 Barb 5 6 Barb 6 Expertise 7 Barb 7 8 COT 1 STR 17 9 COT 2 Dodge, Mobility 10 Barb 8 11 Barb 9 12 Barb 10 Spring Attack, STR 18 13 Barb 11 14 COT 3 15 COT 4 Whirlwind Attack, IC 16 WM 1 STR 19 17 WM 2 18 WM 3 Blind Fighting (or Improved Initiative) 19 WM 4 20 Barb 12 CON 19 21 WM 5 Great STR I (STR 20) 22 WM 6 23 WM 7 24 COT 5 Great STR II (STR 21), CON 20 25 COT 6 EWF 26 COT 7 27 COT 8 Great STR III (STR 22), Armor Skin 28 Barb 13 CON 21 29 COT 9 30 COT 10 EDR I, Great STR IV (STR 23) 31 COT 11 32 COT 12 EDR II, CON 22 33 Barb 14 Great STR V (STR 24) 34 CoT 13 35 CoT 14 EDR III 36 CoT 15 ESF: Intimidate, STR 25 37 COT 16 EP 38 COT 17 39 Barb 15 Terrifying Rage 40 COT 18 Epic Thoughness (or Superior Initiative),STR 26
BAB : 30 AB: 43 (30 BAB +8 STR +3 WF/EWF +1 WM +1 EP) AC(naked/ plate/ plate and shield): 18/25/28 HP (max): 670 DR 11/-
Better saves, more HP, stronger terrifying rage, taunt and you've got all the necessary skills, so no need to choose a puny human
Actually, I'd drop 2 CoT lvls and take 2 more Barb to get Terrifying rage ASAP (meaning 24th lvl) and still be able to maximise Intimidate and Taunt. You'd lose 1 epic feat, i.e. epic toughness but you can more than make up for it by taking toughness preepic instead of blind fighting. You'd also lose 1 from saves, but they are not bad, so no big loss IMO.
Please, notice this was written in a hurry so there may be mistakes.
Cheers, Kail _________________ Dilegua notte Tramontate stelle Tramontate stelle All'alba vinceṛ Vinceṛ Vinceṛ
And indeed there are mistakes... epic CoT gets bonus feats at 14th and 18th lvl only, so one should either drop EP and epic thoughness, or otherwise drop two GS and keep EP but change epic toughness for something else (ESF: Taunt is my suggestion). The last variant seems better IMO. Cheers, Kail
And indeed there are mistakes... epic CoT gets bonus feats at 14th and 18th lvl only, so one should either drop EP and epic thoughness, or otherwise drop two GS and keep EP but change epic toughness for something else (ESF: Taunt is my suggestion). The last variant seems better IMO. Cheers, Kail
I must complement you on that one, it does indeed look better worked out, nicely done
You might also want to take a look at This build that I have done a while ago. Even if the level spread is different, it is similar in concept and could inspire you if you rebuild yours.
You might also want to take a look at This build that I have done a while ago. Even if the level spread is different, it is similar in concept and could inspire you if you rebuild yours.