Okay, okay, I admit it. I've got Halfling slinger on the brain.
And after a good 11 or 12 minutes of forethought, The Ghost Slinger is what I came up with. With that amount of planning surely there are no weaknesses or errors in the build
While I believe there are one or two Halfling Slingers already posted in the Guild, there are no Rogue/Bard/Shadowdancers, so this build is unique in that respect.
G_u_s, as the newly crowned Professor Emeritus of Halfling Slingers, I expect some wisdom from you.
The Ghost Slinger Rogue 20/Bard 15/SD 5 Race: Halfling Alignment: Any Chaotic PvM, Playable levels 1-40
Stats (start/finish) Str 10 Dex 17/26 Con 14 Int 14 Wis 8 Cha 14/16
AC 28 Max HP 330 (or 370) BA 25 AB: 37/32/27 Saves: Fort 18/Reflex 35/Will 19 Skills: Max Con, Disc, Hide & MS, Open Lock, Disable Trap, Tumble, UMD, Perform 24
Thanks Cinn for your feedback. Excellent as always! _________________ Intelligent design is neither. Science over superstition please.
Edited By griphook on 12/09/05 16:04
If you can live with postponing SD into epic, I'd go with Rogue 23 / SD 2 / Bard 15. Doesn't loose you any important feats (well, the shadow-* ones), but gains a few skill points and 2d6 more sneak attack.
Dont know if its possible, but I would go to 20 bard for lasting inspiration.
I would kinda suggest moving point blank shot up, maybe even up ahead of sling focus, if you aren't taking finesse for melee capability.
Rogue level 20 doesn't benefit you anything in this build... I'd do rogue 19/bard 16 for the improved bardsong and bard spells.
I think the SD 5 route is a good one, actually, under these conditions. At most you could squeeze another 1d6 sneak attack out of the build by doing 23 rogue/1 SD/16 bard - but I don't think that would make a very noticeable difference to your damage output and it would delay epic dodge a bunch.
I'd try to take curse song earlier.
These sneaky halfling slingers are nice characters, though. Big cans of whoopass in small packages. _________________ Experience is the mother of good judgement; bad judgement is the father of experience.
Quote: by Separ If you can live with postponing SD into epic, I'd go with Rogue 23 / SD 2 / Bard 15. Doesn't loose you any important feats (well, the shadow-* ones), but gains a few skill points and 2d6 more sneak attack.
Perhaps that's an alternative approach, but I built this build for level-by-level advancement and having HIPS early would be an asset. Additionally, the SD levels contribute Defensive Roll. Admittedly a Rogue bonus feat could be used to take Defensive Roll. But I felt it made a better-balanced character to have HIPS early and the 'free' Defensive Roll feat. In general, my preference is for my Rogue/SD builds to have at least 4 levels of SD by 20.
Quote: by tanassi Dont know if its possible, but I would go to 20 bard for lasting inspiration.
That's easily a workable alternative, but my intention was for a Sneak Attack-based Rogue slinger, with more emphasis on Rogue levels, and having Bard spells and Song as bonus attributes to the character.
Quote: by Xylophone I would kinda suggest moving point blank shot up, maybe even up ahead of sling focus, if you aren't taking finesse for melee capability.
That's a really good point. Cinn made a similar suggestion. I myself probably wouldn't take Weapon Finesse so that would be a good time to take PBS.
Quote: by Xylophone Rogue level 20 doesn't benefit you anything in this build... I'd do rogue 19/bard 16 for the improved bardsong and bard spells.
That looks like a solid idea too. You'd only require 4 more Perform skill points, but you'd get an extra 4 HP and 1 AC, and have an equally-improved Curse Song.
Quote: by Xylophone I think the SD 5 route is a good one, actually, under these conditions. At most you could squeeze another 1d6 sneak attack out of the build by doing 23 rogue/1 SD/16 bard - but I don't think that would make a very noticeable difference to your damage output and it would delay epic dodge a bunch.
Thanks. Honestly I don't think there's any one 'Best' level distribution between Bard and Rogue here. There are lots of options, dependent on what Bard Song you want, and what Sneak Attack you want. Bard 12/Rogue 21/SD 2, Bard 20/Rogue 19/SD 1, Bard 12/Rogue 23/SD 5, etc.
Quote: by Xylophone I'd try to take curse song earlier.
Definitely doable with some minor shuffling. Could take pre-epic in place of Finesse or Toughness. Or early in the 20's.
Some might ask why not take Epic Dodge earlier. Well, I considered that, but didn't want to burn a lot of feats on Great Dex to qualify sooner. With HIPS and Defensive Roll this guy should do okay. And since he's not a toe-to-toe combatant, Epic Dodge isn't as critical for him.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to fire this build up on Aielund so I'm looking to see what advice I can get.
Griphook, o great one, would you please change "35 Rogue 18" to "35 Bard 13", and "16 Bard 8 (Des: 21)" to "16 Bard 8 (Dex:21)"? Now, for an offering, hmm. I'm all out of virgins but I have a basket of frankincense you could have _________________ Intelligent design is neither. Science over superstition please.
Edited By Kaliban99 on 12/09/05 14:06
Looks good to me, Kal. I think someone mentioned the Rogue19/Bard16 vs Rogue20/Bard15 change. I concur. Other than that, I think we have a wiener.
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All, here is the revised version. Thanks for the input:
Stats (start/finish) Str 10 Dex 17/26 Con 14 Int 14 Wis 8 Cha 14/16
AC 28 Max HP 330 BA 25 AB: 37/32/27 Saves: Fort 18/Reflex 35/Will 19 Skills: Max Con, Disc, Hide & MS, Open Lock, Disable Trap, Tumble, UMD, Perform 24 _________________ Intelligent design is neither. Science over superstition please.
