1 Pal 1 Power attack 2 Pal 2 3 Pal 3 Cleave 4 Pal 4 Ability: STR (19) 5 Pal 5 6 Pal 6 great cleave 7 Pal 7 8 Pal 8 STR (20) 9 Pal 9 Knockdown 10 Pal 10 11 Pal 11 12 Pal 12 WF rapier STR (21) 13 Pal 13 14 Pal 14 15 Pal 15 Imp. crit 16 Pal 16 STR (22) 17 Pal 17 18 Pal 18 Divine shield 19 Pal 19 20 Pal 20STR (23) 21 Sor Overhelming crit rapier 22 RDD 1 23 RDD 2 RDD STR 25 24 RDD 3 Dev crit STR (26) 25 RDD 4 RDD STR 28 26 RDD 5 27 RDD 6 Great str 1 (29); RDD Con 10 28 RDD 7 STR (30) 29 RDD 8 30 RDD 9 RDD INT 14 ; great str 2 (31) 31 RDD 10 RDD STR 35; RDD CHA 15 32 Pal 21 STR (36) 33 Pal 22 Epic WF rapier 34 Pal 23 Armor skin* 35 Pal 24 36 Pal 25 Great str3(37);STR(3 37 Pal 26 Epic prowess* 38 Pal 27 39 Pal 28 great str 4 (39) 40 Pal 29 Epic toughness*; STR (40)
*Bonus paladin feats
AC fully buffed : mage armor +divine shield ( max cha with items +12)=69 AB Fully buffed using mundane rapier = 56 + true strike! Dev crit dc =46 with +12 items u can go for 51...
SKIlls : 43 disc; 43 concentration; 20 tumble Pros: LvL 4 paladin spells True strike / high ab without Weekness: Low disc ( 67) A see invis or true seeing are badly needed if you go solo... Xp penalty from lvl 21 to 40
Note 1 : If you go human you can add Divine damage or toughness or great fort to the build and no xp penalty. Note 2: If you go for a dev dc 45 u can add both feats skill focus dicipline and epic skill focus discipline for a +12 in discipline instead of 2 great str
Comments are welcome
Edited By malibu-fr on 03/01/06 15:14
Results from pulse cap's build searcher: Paladin29/Sorceror1/RDD10 by bwookie Divine Paladin /Paladin 29/Sorcerer 1/RDD 10 by lala_truthsayer
Those have the exact same levels. There's also Wrath Of God /Paladin 21/RDD 10/Sorcerer 9 by Faign. _________________ The world is grey, the mountain's old The forge's fire is ashen and cold No harp is wrung, no hammer falls The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...
The first is i agree quite the same as mine but the 2 others aren't(2nd is cha based and 3rd is 21 paly and 9 sorc). Mine is i would say a variant of the first : str based but with more ac and pali cannot have great str as a bonus feat(or with more damage ) hmm Maybe it doesn't make any difference to post here then can someone move it at the end of first build post ...
Edited By malibu-fr on 03/01/06 15:46
Add mediocore/low hp to weakness list maybe?
I feel that a human might have been a better choice though.
Any specific reason to take a rapier instead of a scimitar? Scimitar can be casted keen upon.
AC with mundane gear, not buffed: 10 (base) + 8 (heavy armor) + 3 (shield) + 4 (tumble) + 4 (dragon ac) - 1 (dex bonus) = 28
AC with mundane gear, with max cats grace & divine shield:
33 Pal 22 Great Cha I 34 Pal 23 Epic WF rapier * 35 Pal 24 36 Pal 25 Great str3(37);STR(3 37 Pal 26 Epic prowess* 38 Pal 27 39 Pal 28 great str 4 (39) 40 Pal 29 Armor skins*; STR (40)
Would give you -20hp, but 1 more ac.
Edited By Bearke on 03/01/06 16:57
Click Here and read this post. Read other builds. Read whatever you want, but please post this build as it should be. Why is it that new posters can't do this right? It isn't difficult.
Sorry if I seem harsh , but I just can't understand why this is so difficult. I never had this problem. Second thing, go human, even with 18 starting STR you would be better off(skillpoints). Numbers in parenthesis is suggested starting abilities.
STR 18 (16) DEX 8 CON 8 (12) INT 12 WIS 14 CHA 12 (14)
Finn mentions those builds because one usually does mention similar builds, and builds with the same classes, it's not more to it than that.
Like Bearke says, your AC and AB are way off target, read the topic i link, please, and come up with correct stats.
*EDIT* You get an xp penalty of 20% from lvl 21 and up, quite important for some people. A human would avoid this. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Edited By Grimnir77 on 03/01/06 17:22
I forgot to add +2 ac to each, from armor skin. My bad! Sorry.
33 Pal 22 Great Cha I 34 Pal 23 Epic WF rapier * 35 Pal 24 36 Pal 25 Great str3(37);STR(3 37 Pal 26 Epic prowess* 38 Pal 27 39 Pal 28 great str 4 (39) 40 Pal 29 Armor skins*; STR (40)
Would give you -20hp, but 1 more ac.
The reason to take rapier instead of scimitar is simply cause of the server i play: i can have rapier +6 or +7 and only +5 for scimitar.
For hp you can use heal from paladin ability (1/day)but i agree this char isn't for long battle, fight won't take long time with him true stike + kd with some critical hits and normally the job is done especially vs dexer build .
Thanx bearke for the naked stats at 40
LOL, the free template for posting builds.
Um, I don't think those base stats are good, as Bearke said, your HP is low, and that's obviuosly because your CON has a negative modifier and you don't have Toughness (although you have one Epic Toughness, but that's because it's bonus).
Wait, you use a half orc, but you increase CHA and INT? getting CHA to 13 (most obviously for Divine Shield) costs 2, since half orc has penalty on INT and CHA, so unless you're lowering CHA and INT, don't use a half-orc, it's a waste of essential status.
So, you can use human for the XP penalty issue, you would lose STR, point given, but HP is at least as important, or moreso. with human you could go:
STR 16 DEX 8 CON 12 WIS 14 INT 12 CHA 14
In fact I might change 2 INT for 2 CON, although depending on skills, might not be very good, I don't think Concentration is so needed for a paladin, and paladin doesn't gets the cool skills anyway, although crossclass would give you spellcraft......
My point is, lose some STR for CON, it will help at the end, and human is better than half-orc if you're using CHA, even though you obviously look to gain high dev crit DC, sometimes it's just not worth 80 HP it for 1 DC more, and for the bonus skill for humans, get Toughness, another 40 HP.
EDIT: Don't rely on True Strike, it just last too little, but your AB is very good.
EDIT 2: Ok, I just noticed you didn't even posted your actual HP, I calculated for you (with your current stats), it should be 360 f I'm correct, no melee can stand with that.
, but I just can't understand why this is so difficult. I never had this problem. Second thing, go human, even with 18 starting STR you would be better off(skillpoints). Numbers in parenthesis is suggested starting abilities.