This is an RP build based on the character Vladimir Taltos from the books by Steven Brust. I am not completely happy with it - NWN does not lend itself well to the set of skills the character has. I prefer him as a fighter/Wizard/Assassin from a RP perspective, but there is no way to get ED in that build, which really weakens it as a dex-build. It does get higher AB and Death Attack DC, though. I can post that one too if anyone is interested. I really envision the character as a Fighter/Wizard/Assassin/SD (I think of his ability to blend into a crowd as he walks away from an assassination as HiPS), but no can do 4 classes with NWN.....
Anyway here he is. The Wiz levels are primarily for RP purposes, although the buffs and True Strike will be useful. I won't do a story for him, Steven has already done them far better than I could.
Rogue(16), Wizard(6), Assassin(18), Human Alignment - must be evil for Assassin (although I picture the character as more of True Neutral).
Hitpoints: 228 Skillpoints: 365 Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 16/18/36 BAB: 24 AB (max, naked): 40 (melee), 37 (ranged) AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 30/30 Death Attack DC: 30 Sneak attack: 17d6 Familiar - I think the Pseudo-Dragon is closest to a Jhereg, although you could go with Faerie-dragon or even Bat. Of course, you must name it Loiosh.
* Intimidate, Thug, and Luck of Heroes were taken for RP reasons - feel free to switch those for something else. I was tempted to take Expertise/Imp Expertise, but felt that Thug and LoH really fit Vlad.
TM
Edited By Tattoed Monk on 03/07/06 15:23
Heh, a familiar from a level 6 wizard goes down in one blow........
Why 12 CHA? I suppose you have a reason, but I can't see it, if you're not a bard, CoT, paladin or sorcerer (cleric might fit in too), CHA is completely useless.
Is this build made for...... one hit killed? I mean, seriously, 228 HP!!!!!!!!!!! my critical reaper could take him out on one lucky hit.
I would change that CHA for CON.
Blame the place from where you reference it or something, but I think it won't resist anything.
Heh, a familiar from a level 6 wizard goes down in one blow........
Why 12 CHA? I suppose you have a reason, but I can't see it, if you're not a bard, CoT, paladin or sorcerer (cleric might fit in too), CHA is completely useless.
Is this build made for...... one hit killed? I mean, seriously, 228 HP!!!!!!!!!!! my critical reaper could take him out on one lucky hit.
I would change that CHA for CON.
Blame the place from where you reference it or something, but I think it won't resist anything.
Read through what he wrote in the beginning. Very very closely.. You'll notice a foreign word.. : "RP" Let's analyze that word, shall we? Rp is actually an abbreviation, short for Roleplay. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roleplay : "In role-playing, participants adopt characters, or parts, that have personalities, motivations, and backgrounds different from their own. Role-playing is like being in an improvisational drama or free-form theatre, in which the participants are the actors who are playing parts. "
So I think it's safe to assume he picked the charisma (and almost all of everything else) because the Vlad Taltos is okay-looking, or just a bit charming. Not because of PvP / PvE. The whole build smells like roleplay > power.
Heh, a familiar from a level 6 wizard goes down in one blow........
Why 12 CHA? I suppose you have a reason, but I can't see it, if you're not a bard, CoT, paladin or sorcerer (cleric might fit in too), CHA is completely useless.
Is this build made for...... one hit killed? I mean, seriously, 228 HP!!!!!!!!!!! my critical reaper could take him out on one lucky hit.
I would change that CHA for CON.
Blame the place from where you reference it or something, but I think it won't resist anything.
There's nothing constructive in this post, either It's like "lol this build sucks lol mine's better PWNXORZ!!!1!onehundredandeleven" "They speak the most who have the least to say."
It's quite interesting. I'd like to see more Wizard levels, though. Drop the powergaming and got with Fighter/Wizard/Assassin. _________________ The world is grey, the mountain's old The forge's fire is ashen and cold No harp is wrung, no hammer falls The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...
Cha was for RP reasons - Vlad is somewhat of a charismatic guy, and generates a lot of loyalty from his friends. An 8 cha didn't seem right for him, but you are right that he could put those points into Con. The Cha does help with UMD somewhat, also.
His familiar isn't for combat - Loiosh in the books is a Jhereg, he is poisonous, but rarely fights at all. He is used primarily as a scout, to spot the guards, traps, etc., before Vlad goes in, and sometimes as a decoy, to distract a guard or victim for a moment before the fatal blow comes. And yes, Vlad almost always kills with a single blow (usually a rapier thrust to the heart, or a dagger in the eye, but I didn't have room for 2 focuses in the build).
I thought about more Wiz levels, but I wanted a high DA. The Fighter/Wiz/Assassin works pretty well except for the lack of ED. Here is that one:
You can also drop 4 Wiz levels for Assassin to pick up +4 to DA DC. Costs some spell power, though, but that's not his primary focus.
TM
I like your second one alot better, reminds me of something I made once, though it was level 15 wizard I think.
-Kristian
I must make a point. The guy that can kill this guy in ONE lucky blow doesn't exist. He's got Epic Dodge. Add to that the high AC he will have and you got a hard to kill in melee build. Actually, I went up against Big M in HotU with 200 hp even with the items I wore. Never used as much as a cure light wound even. So sometimes hp isn't everything. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Oh, I misread his original comment to mean that Vlad was designed to get 1-hit kills, not be killed in 1 hit.
In order to kill him in 1 hit, you have to do 2 things: First, you must see him. Note the maxed Hide and Move Silent, plus Assassins have the spell-like abilities of Improved Invisibility and Darkness.
Second, as Grimnir noted, you have to hit him. Naked AC is 30, he can self-buff with Cat's Grace, Mage Armor, Shield, etc., with decent equipment you should expect him to have a rather high AC. Epic dodge in the first version will guarantee the first swing misses. Imp Invis or Darkness will give him 50% concealment, so half of all swings will miss (or 25% if you have Blindfight). And if he sneaks up on you and gets in that first Death Attack, you will be paralyzed for a long time, so you won't get to make any attacks.
His weakness is enemies that are either immune to sneak/death attack, or ones with True Sight. For ones with True Sight, he will use his familiar or a henchman to distract them so he can still get the sneak attack in ("No matter how powerful the wizard, a dagger between the shoulderblades will really cramp his style...."). For ones that are immune to his sneak attack, he will call Morollan or Aliera to help him out.
TM
Cool build idea, TM. I like FTR version better I think. I've been thinking of trying to get a Vlad Taltos build together for some time, but never really came up with something I liked. Heh, I've also been thinking about trying to come up with a Sethra Lavode... _________________ Captain's Log, Stardate 6051: had trouble sleeping last night... my hiatal hernia is acting up. The ship is... drafty and damp; I complain but... nobody listens.
Sethra's easy: Fighter 10/Rogue 20/Wizard 40/Pale Master 10. Epic Spell Focus in all 6 schools, Autostill III, Epic Dodge and Dev Crit.
Yes, I know it's 4 classes and 80 levels. She's over 25,000 years old. You pick up a few tricks in that time....
Heh, a familiar from a level 6 wizard goes down in one blow........
Why 12 CHA? I suppose you have a reason, but I can't see it, if you're not a bard, CoT, paladin or sorcerer (cleric might fit in too), CHA is completely useless.
Is this build made for...... one hit killed? I mean, seriously, 228 HP!!!!!!!!!!! my critical reaper could take him out on one lucky hit.
I would change that CHA for CON.
Blame the place from where you reference it or something, but I think it won't resist anything.
that was very ignorant
anyways...
This is a pretty cool build, but I would like to see a Drizzt Do'Urden or Grom Hellscream build...
im salivating at the thought
might as well be because I don't know who Vlad Taltos is.......
Heh, a familiar from a level 6 wizard goes down in one blow........
Why 12 CHA? I suppose you have a reason, but I can't see it, if you're not a bard, CoT, paladin or sorcerer (cleric might fit in too), CHA is completely useless.
Is this build made for...... one hit killed? I mean, seriously, 228 HP!!!!!!!!!!! my critical reaper could take him out on one lucky hit.
I would change that CHA for CON.
Blame the place from where you reference it or something, but I think it won't resist anything.
that was very ignorant
Ok, I might not be denying that....... you wouldn't deny the low HP, though, I will go with Wing Kross's quote:
Quote: The whole build smells like roleplay > power.
Come on Grim, you know Mephistopheles is crap, easy to beat, even with the bug of the earlier versions where you could multiply him and fight 3 Mephistopheles' at the same time. Too bad that bug has been corrected, it was very fun.
Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 03/08/06 23:07
Quote: Posted 03/08/06 23:04:04 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia might as well be because I don't know who Vlad Taltos is.......
'Sokay. It wasn't a powerbuild, I was trying to create a character from a series of books I like. The first one is Jhereg, they are by Steven Brust (as I mentioned in the first post). Very fun, mostly light easy reads. They do get a bit more serious starting with the third book Teckla, but are still quite fun. Steven likes to try some interesting things from a literary style point of view - each of the books is written quite differently. Some are straight up story-telling, some use a lot of jumping around in time (i.e. telling the story out of order), some use multiple points of view, all are good reads with a lot of clever humor. I recommend you check them out.
might as well be because I don't know who Vlad Taltos is.......
It's like "lol this build sucks lol mine's better PWNXORZ!!!1!onehundredandeleven" "They speak the most who have the least to say." 
