Ok this is my first ever char post so please go easy.

Please let me know if there is anyway to improve on
this build.

Here are the REQUIREMENTS that i have to work with. Nothing i can do about that so make sure you read each one.

Needs: Hellball, Disc, Tumble, High Fort Save, Evasion, UMD, 4 attack rnd, small appraise skill, Bastard Sword

* This guy is being started at 40th so playability from lvl 1 is not a factor
* LVL 38 max out for Disc
* LVL 39 for Epic Spell Hellball
* LVL 40 Skill dump for Tumble and gain Evasion

Cleric(24), Champion of Torm(14), Rogue(2)

Human, CN

STR: 16 (25)
DEX: 8
CON: 14
WIS: 16 (20)
INT: 12
CHA: 8

Hitpoints: 476 (if you max all the way)
Skillpoints: 184
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 37/25/32
Saving Throw bonuses: +8 Spell
BAB: 26
AB : 35/30/25/20 (No items)
Cleric Spells : 9th LvL
Cleric Domains : Trickery, Strength
Skills: Concentration 42, Discipline 41 , Appraise 5, Open Lock 4, Spellcraft 42 , Tumble 40, UMD 10

LvLing: Pre-Epic (16) Cleric & (4) Cot

01: Cleric – WP Marital, Power Attack
02: Cleric
03: Cleric – WP Exotic
04: Cleric – Wis+1
05: Cleric
06: Cleric – WF B-Sword
07: Cleric
08: Cleric – Wis+1
09: Cleric - Combat Casting
10: Cleric
11: Cleric
12: Cleric – Str +1, Imp Crit
13: Cleric – Cleric
14: Cot
15: Cleric – Cleave
16: Cot – Str+1, Great Cleave
17: Cleric
18: Cot – Extend Spell
19: Cleric
20: Cot – Str+1, Knockdown
21: Rogue – Great Str I
22: Cot
23: Cot – EWF
24: Cot – Str+1, Great Str II
25: Cot
26: Cot – Epic Prow
27: Cot – Epic Fort, Armor Skin
28: Cot – Str +1
29: Cot
30: Cleric – Overwhelming Crit
31: Cleric
32: Cleric – Str +1
33: Cleric – Great Str III
34: Cleric
35: Cleric
36: Cleric – Wis +1, Dev Crit, Imp Combat Casting
37: Cot
38: Cot – Epic Toughness
39: Cleric – Epic Spell : Hellball
40: Rogue – Wis+1



**Just want to thank Kail & Nitricity, Kail sent me a similar build with more rogue levels and sort of worked off that, Nitricity had something almost similar.**

Edited By Kurgan13 on 03/15/06 16:47

It is customary to credit other builds that use the same classes.

Results from pulse cap's build searcher:
Divine Swords Of Torm /Rogue 15/Cleric 15/CoT 10 by christian,schnabel
Blessed Sneak mk II /Rogue 19/Cleric 15/CoT 6 by Cinnabar Din
Sacred Swordsman /Rogue 17/CoT 8/Cleric 15 by CrispyCritter
Divine Commando Of Torm /Cleric 17/CoT 10/Rogue 13 by Ithacan
The Cleric Of Meb /Cleric 21/Cot 16/Rogue 3 by Nitricity
Faithful Adventurer /Rogue 17/Cleric 13/CoT 10 by Xylophone

Is it PvM or PvP?

Class levels, please.

Then the build itself. WP: Marital is hilarious You don't need to pick WP: Martial anyway if you're using a Bastard Sword Also, swap Epic Toughness for another Great STR, I don't understand why you'd want to end with an odd STR score to gain 20 HP.
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Then the build itself. WP: Marital is hilarious You don't need to pick WP: Martial anyway if you're using a Bastard Sword Also, swap Epic Toughness for another Great STR, I don't understand why you'd want to end with an odd STR score to gain 20 HP.

I agree with the WP: martial, drop it. About Epic toughness it is not that straightforward since it is a CoT bonus feat. Still, change ET for Great WIS and change WIS +1 at 40th lvl for STR +1.

I question CC/ICC when you are not going for exp/IE. You can use defensive casting for the same result and free up 2 feats.

IMO you are better served by War Domain, Cat's Grace and AoV will improve your self buffing.

Your HPs calculation seems off, it should be 424 maxed.

CoT improves the saves, but if you can give up 4 lvls (and +2 saves) you can go CLC 27/Rogue 3/CoT 10, same number of feats, undispellable, uncanny dodge, +1d6 sneak attack and +6 skillpoints. I'd go for 14 INT and grab some trap setting skills too, you do not need to spend too many points since you have Trickery domain powers to help you. With 14 INT you can set deadly traps on a take 20 and most strong traps on the fly.

You could try something like this:

Cleric(27), Champion of Torm(10), Rogue(3)
Human, any non-evil alignment

STR: 16 (26)
DEX: 8
CON: 12
WIS: 16 (20)
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Hitpoints: 414
Skillpoints: 233
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 34/31/27
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +9, evasion
BAB: 26
AB (max, naked): 38 (melee), 26 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 19/30, uncanny dodge
Spell Casting: Cleric(9)
Dev Crit DC: 38 (43 with AoV and lucky empowered bull's strength, 44 with capped STR)
Sneak attack: +2d6

SKILLS
Appraise 5(7), Concentration 43(44), Disable Trap 5(9), Discipline 41(49), Open Lock 1(0), Set Trap 24(25), Spellcraft 43(45), Tumble 40(39), UMD 31(30)
+14 hide, MS, persuade, search, disable traps, open locks, pick pockets with domain power on


LVLUP GUIDE
01: Cleric(1): Blind Fight, Toughness, Domain Trickery, Domain War
02: Cleric(2)
03: Cleric(3): Weapon Proficiency Exotic
04: Cleric(4): WIS+1, (WIS=17)
05: Cleric(5)
06: Cleric(6): Extend Spell
07: Cleric(7)
08: Cleric(8): WIS+1, (WIS=18)
09: Cleric(9): Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword
10: Cleric(10)
11: Cleric(11)
12: Champion of Torm(1): WIS+1, Empower Spell, (WIS=19)
13: Champion of Torm(2): Power Attack
14: Cleric(12)
15: Cleric(13): Cleave
16: Cleric(14): STR+1, (STR=17)
17: Champion of Torm(3): {Smite Evil}
18: Champion of Torm(4): Great Cleave, Improved Critical: Bastard Sword
19: Cleric(15)
20: Cleric(16): STR+1, (STR=18)
21: Cleric(17): Great Strength I, (STR=19)
22: Rogue(1)
23: Champion of Torm(5)
24: Champion of Torm(6): STR+1, Great Strength II, Epic Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword, (STR=21)
25: Cleric(18)
26: Cleric(19)
27: Cleric(20): Great Strength III, (STR=22)
28: Cleric(21): STR+1, (STR=23)
29: Cleric(22)
30: Cleric(23): Epic Spell: Hellball, Great Wisdom I, (WIS=20)
31: Cleric(24)
32: Cleric(25): STR+1, (STR=24)
33: Cleric(26): Epic Prowess, Armor Skin
34: Rogue(2): {Evasion}
35: Champion of Torm(7)
36: Champion of Torm(8): STR+1, Epic Reflexes, Overwhelming Critical: Bastard Sword, (STR=25)
37: Champion of Torm(9)
38: Champion of Torm(10): Devastating Critical: Bastard Sword
39: Rogue(3): Epic Fortitude, {Uncanny Dodge I}
40: Cleric(27): STR+1, (STR=26)


Actually I would rearrange the lvls in order to get 15 BAB at 20th lvl for divine power exploit.

Cheers,
Kail
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