Equipment: Whip + shield + any armor that allows u a decent dex bonus
-The succubus has been raised directly from Hell. Her skin is as tough as hell So tough that no normal weapon can hit her (or nearly). She has base armor class of 39, and she has spells (Epic mage armor, Cat’s grace) to help her get over 60 AC. With Epic warding, she becomes almost immune to any physical damages. -She also has several immunities (Critical hits, Hold, Paralyse, Stun, Sleep and Fire) -The succubus can concentrate her energies to send, from Hell, a HellBall to her opponents (40d6) -She can call from Hell a Lich lord to help her bring death to the world -She can send a tiny cone of fire to her enemies. (10d6) -7 times per day, she can paralyse her enemy with her infernal arm -3 times per day, she can kill her enemy with a single touch
Even though she has many strengths, the succubus has an important weakness : low saving throws, which make her vulnerable to many spells (except for the one she is immune to) She has a low base attack, but her high strength helps balance her attacks. Giving her strength equipment and Bull’s strength spell, she’ll become a strong melee character
I wished to use the Whip, because i felt it fit well with the Succubus’ psychology. However, for better critical damages i would replace Weapon prof (exotic) by (martial) and would replace all feats associated to Whip by Rapier and use a Highroad rapier (keen). That would give a crit 12-20 instead of 19-20 with whip.
Character Level Class Skill increases Feat Selection Attribute increase 1 Bard Concentration 4, Lore 4, Discipline 4, Tumble 4, Spellcraft 4 Power attack Cleave 2 Bard Concentration 1, Lore 1, Discipline 1, Tumble 1, Spellcraft 1 3 Bard Concentration 1, Lore 1, Discipline 1, Tumble 1, Spellcraft 1 Weapon Prof (exotic) 4 Pale Master Concentration 1, Lore 1, Spellcraft 1 Strength 5 Pale Master Concentration 1, Lore 1, Spellcraft 1 6 Red Dragon Disciple Discipline 3 Weapon Focus (whip) 7 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 2, Discipline 1 8 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 Strength 9 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 Great Cleave 10 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 11 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 12 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 Improved Critical (whip) Strength 13 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 14 Red Dragon Disciple Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Spellcraft 1 15 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 3 Dodge 16 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Strength 17 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 18 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Mobility 19 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 20 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Strength 21 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Epic Weapn Focus(whip 22 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 23 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 24 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Overwhel.Critical (whip) Strength 25 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Epic energy resistance 26 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 27 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Devast. Critical (whip) 28 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Epic spell (mage armor) Strength 29 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 30 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Armor skin 31 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Epic Spell (hell ball) 32 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Strength 33 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Epic Prowess 34 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Epic Spell (Warding) 35 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 36 Pale Master Concentration 1, Spellcraft 1 Spring Attack Strength 37 Red Dragon Disciple Concentratin 1, Discipline 23, Spellcraft 1 38 Bard Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Tumble 25 39 Bard Concentration 1, Discipline 1, Tumble 4 Toughness 40 Bard Discipline 1, Tumble 5 Strength
Added class split to title - Kail Pendragon
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 04/10/06 02:05
What's this, a Bard/PM/RDD! How fresh.
Results from pulse cap's build searcher: Bard 4/PM 26/RDD 10 by Bran Blackboon Freak of Nature / Bard 6/PM 20/RDD 14 by BRIAN FELLOW Palemaster Tank /Bard 6/RDD 10/PM 24 by Bruce Lee 72 Black Widow /Bard 14/RDD 10/PM 16 by Grimnir77 Bard 14 /RDD 10 /PM 16 by Herbie Shimmer Bardic Dracolich Rebuild /Bard 10/Palemaster 16/RDD 14 by Ithacan Undead Dragon Skald /Bard 14/Palemaster 16/RDD 10 by Ithacan Pale Drake /Palemaster 24/RDD 10/Bard 6 by Ralkain 17 Mini – Dracolich /Bard 17/Palemaster 13/RDD 10 by SirGunky Dracolich Avatar /Bard 4/PM 12/RDD 24 by uanime The Singing Kukri's Bard 14/RDD 10/PM 16 by Wi11ow Original Avatar of Ruin /Bard 10/RDD 10/PM 20 by Wildeyes Revised Avatar of Ruin /Bard14/RDD10/PM16 by Wildeyes Grim Bard /Bard14/RDD10/PM16 by Zhoreb
PLEASE have a look at this: Click Here . Especially Kaliban's post. _________________ The world is grey, the mountain's old The forge's fire is ashen and cold No harp is wrung, no hammer falls The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...
~ Summoning - Khazad-Dúm
Now now Finn, he's posting a theme build (Succubus) not a generic build of PM + RDD.
Perhaps giving help to enhance the Succubus aspect of the build might be a better avenue to persue, rather than stateing that he is not orriginal.
The biggest problem here is the format, anyway, not the lack of originality. _________________ The world is grey, the mountain's old The forge's fire is ashen and cold No harp is wrung, no hammer falls The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...
~ Summoning - Khazad-Dúm
if anyone is interested the highest possible ac is from a Bard 4 pm 28 RDD 8 dexer its a meat tank but I may post it =]
if anyone is interested the highest possible ac is from a Bard 4 pm 28 RDD 8 dexer its a meat tank but I may post it =]
Ani......
Actually, that would only be useful in one-on-one since your dex goes bang in mobs. There is another option, at the cost of +/-6ac however..
I would suggest you drop CON to 14, and use those 4 points to make DEX 14, increase CHA to 12 and INT to 12, more skills would be handy, for Tumble and UMD (as my reading goes, and it could be wrong, you didn't got tumble to 40).
Why does he gets Epic Spells? I though you needed to be able to cast level 9 spells as prerequisite, and Bard doesn't have any level 9 spells, as well as there's too little amount of increasing-slot caster levels involved in there......
I would suggest you drop CON to 14, and use those 4 points to make DEX 14, increase CHA to 12 and INT to 12, more skills would be handy, for Tumble and UMD (as my reading goes, and it could be wrong, you didn't got tumble to 40).
I agree to this, the benefits outweigh the loss.
Quote: Why does he gets Epic Spells? I though you needed to be able to cast level 9 spells as prerequisite, and Bard doesn't have any level 9 spells, as well as there's too little amount of increasing-slot caster levels involved in there......
Palemasters are an exception, they access Epic spells when their class level become lvl 15. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Quote: Posted 03/29/06 20:23:44 (GMT) -- Khandahr
Actually, that would only be useful in one-on-one since your dex goes bang in mobs. There is another option, at the cost of +/-6ac however..
It's not the mobs, it's flatfootedness the problem
It's not the mobs, it's flatfootedness the problem
That's how it should be. I think i saw posted once that when you are up against 3 or more, or More than three, (don't remember which) you loose DEX AC unless you have uncanny. I have noticed the same thing in a monk I played, it was STR based but still had maxed dex from items and 14 natural, and I got hit by blows far below my AC when in mobs. Someone should test this mob-thing. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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That build sounds quite interesting, but why would you go with 8 rdd instead of just 36 palemaster?
Please post it if you would : D
Try. I dare you. Well seriously though, you can't. All PrC's are limited to 30 levels. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
I run the Pre-Epic Builders guild. Join and share your experience.
So tough that no normal weapon can hit her (or nearly). She has base armor class of 39, and she has spells (Epic mage armor, Cat’s grace) to help her get over 60 AC. With Epic warding, she becomes almost immune to any physical damages.