This build isn't meant to be remotely good. In fact, the whole self concealment/damage reduction idea can be done better with a Fighter/SD/DwD. This build is meant to get EDR, epic dodge and SCV. And that's all.

The EDR SCV ED Guy Halfling Bard 7 / Shadowdancer 26 / RDD 7

Starting Attributes
Str 6
Dex 20
Con 16
Wis 8
Int 9
Cha 11

Not playable at al ever
Alignment: Any

Attribute Bonuses
Levels 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 36 and 40 go to dexterity, 32 goes to constitution

Leveling
01: Bard(1): Dodge
02: Bard(2)
03: Bard(3): Weapon Finesse
04: Bard(4): DEX+1, (DEX=21)
05: Bard(5)
06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Two-Weapon Fighting
07: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=8)
08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Mobility, (STR=10)
10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): DEX+1, Ambidexterity, (DEX=23), (CON=18)
13: Bard(6)
14: Shadowdancer(1): {Hide in Plain Sight}
15: Shadowdancer(2): Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, {Darkvision, Evasion, Uncanny Dodge I}
16: Shadowdancer(3): DEX+1, (DEX=24)
17: Shadowdancer(4)
18: Shadowdancer(5): Weapon Focus: Mace, {Defensive Roll}
19: Shadowdancer(6)
20: Shadowdancer(7): DEX+1, {Slippery Mind}, (DEX=25)
21: Shadowdancer(8): Great Dexterity I, (DEX=26)
22: Shadowdancer(9)
23: Shadowdancer(10): {Improved Evasion}
24: Shadowdancer(11): DEX+1, Great Dexterity II, (DEX=28)
25: Shadowdancer(12)
26: Shadowdancer(13): Epic Dodge
27: Shadowdancer(14): Great Dexterity III, (DEX=29)
28: Shadowdancer(15): DEX+1, (DEX=30)
29: Shadowdancer(16): Self Concealment I
30: Shadowdancer(17): Great Constitution I, (CON=19)
31: Shadowdancer(18)
32: Shadowdancer(19): CON+1, Self Concealment II, (CON=20)
33: Shadowdancer(20): Great Constitution II, (CON=21)
34: Shadowdancer(21)
35: Shadowdancer(22): Self Concealment III
36: Shadowdancer(23): DEX+1, Epic Damage Reduction I, (DEX=31)
37: Shadowdancer(24)
38: Shadowdancer(25): Self Concealment IV
39: Shadowdancer(26): Self Concealment V
40: Bard(7): DEX+1, (DEX=32)

Final Attributes:
Str 10
Dex 32
Con 21
Wis 8
Int 9
Cha 11

Hitpoints: 504
Skillpoints: 167
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 25/22/34
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +2, Traps: +2, Fear: +2
BAB: 24
AB (max, naked): 37 (melee), 37 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 32/34

Final Skills
Hide 43(54)
Lore 8(14)
Move Silently 43(56)
Spellcraft 15(14)
Tumble 43(54)

This is honestly one of the worst builds I could ever think up.


Corrected final STR score - Kail Pendragon
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Edited By Kail Pendragon on 05/09/06 13:52

Don't worry, a WIS based Sorcerer will always be worse.

I don't understand why you even said yourself that this is one of the weakest builds you could think of... I've always thought of the guild trying to do the exact opposite.

You only get EDR I.. no use on even getting it, it's a waste..... RDD 7 for this is also weird, you should do something for the damage, like the usual DEX based sneaks...

I'm not sure if you want people to reply here............. 'cause telling you how to make it better while it's obvious you can make it better would be a waste of time to write and read.
Quote: Posted 05/08/06 20:24:19 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

I'm not sure if you want people to reply here............. 'cause telling you how to make it better while it's obvious you can make it better would be a waste of time to write and read.

Probably stuff like how to get EDR3 without losing ED & SC5, because that seems to be his idea.
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Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan

[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five.
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there is something wrong with the ending stats. By lvl 4 an RDD gains +4 to STR, still he ends with 6?? See it over once more... Try a Strength approach to this one, might do you good.
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Quote: Posted 05/09/06 05:14:37 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

Try a Strength approach to this one, might do you good.

Just how are you planning to get SC5 like that
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Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan

[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five.
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Edited By FinneousPJ on 05/09/06 12:47

Quote: Posted 05/09/06 12:47:12 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 05/09/06 05:14:37 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

Try a Strength approach to this one, might do you good.

Just how are you planning to get SC5 like that

Yeah, yeah. Try a strength approac to this combo then..... grrrrrr
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Quote: Posted 05/09/06 05:14:37 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

there is something wrong with the ending stats. By lvl 4 an RDD gains +4 to STR, still he ends with 6?? See it over once more... Try a Strength approach to this one, might do you good.

He ends with 10. Build says so.
Quote: Posted 05/08/06 20:24:19 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

You only get EDR I.. no use on even getting it, it's a waste..... RDD 7 for this is also weird, you should do something for the damage, like the usual DEX based sneaks...

I'm not sure if you want people to reply here............. 'cause telling you how to make it better while it's obvious you can make it better would be a waste of time to write and read.

RDD 7 gets me +2 constitution with only a seven level investment. Better than anything else for stat increase.

The goal of the build was to do something almost impossible. Epic dodge, SC5 and dev crit would have been easier. Well, it does get your crazy things... are you going to make a build with Epic Dodge, SCV and Dev Crit?
Quote: Posted 05/09/06 22:07:11 (GMT) -- avarielo

Quote: Posted 05/09/06 05:14:37 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

there is something wrong with the ending stats. By lvl 4 an RDD gains +4 to STR, still he ends with 6?? See it over once more... Try a Strength approach to this one, might do you good.

He ends with 10. Build says so.

Just because I fixed it

Cheers,
Kail
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Quote: Posted 05/09/06 23:45:41 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

Well, it does get your crazy things... are you going to make a build with Epic Dodge, SCV and Dev Crit?

Mithadrates already did it.
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Quote: Posted 05/09/06 23:51:49 (GMT) -- Kail Pendragon

Quote: Posted 05/09/06 22:07:11 (GMT) -- avarielo

Quote: Posted 05/09/06 05:14:37 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

there is something wrong with the ending stats. By lvl 4 an RDD gains +4 to STR, still he ends with 6?? See it over once more... Try a Strength approach to this one, might do you good.

He ends with 10. Build says so.

Just because I fixed it

Cheers,
Kail

Doh. Thanks, Kail.
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CATS! This topic reminds me of an earlier attempt to reach the maximum Damage Reduction with SCV and ED. I got up to 15 DR with a Rogue 21/DD 18/Harper Scout 1.

*I rumage around my desk and mumbles to myself "Where did I put those notes?". I pull up Kamiryn's Character Build Calculator and enter data from memory...*

It went something like this...


01: Rogue(1): Toughness
02: Rogue(2): {Evasion}
03: Rogue(3): Weapon Finesse, {Uncanny Dodge I}
04: Rogue(4): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
05: Rogue(5)
06: Rogue(6): Iron Will
07: Rogue(7)
08: Rogue(8): DEX+1, (DEX=20)
09: Rogue(9): Dodge
10: Rogue(10): Improved Evasion
11: Dwarven Defender(1): {Defensive Stance}
12: Dwarven Defender(2): DEX+1, Weapon Focus: Handaxe, {Defensive Awareness I}, (DEX=21)
13: Dwarven Defender(3)
14: Dwarven Defender(4)
15: Dwarven Defender(5): Improved Critical: Handaxe
16: Dwarven Defender(6): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
17: Dwarven Defender(7)
18: Dwarven Defender(8): Alertness
19: Rogue(11)
20: Rogue(12): DEX+1, (DEX=23)
21: Harper Scout(1): Great Dexterity I, Great Dexterity II, (DEX=25)
22: Rogue(13): Defensive Roll
23: Dwarven Defender(9)
24: Dwarven Defender(10): DEX+1, Great Dexterity III, (DEX=27)
25: Dwarven Defender(11)
26: Dwarven Defender(12)
27: Rogue(14): Great Dexterity IV, (DEX=28)
28: Dwarven Defender(13): DEX+1, (DEX=29)
29: Dwarven Defender(14): Epic Prowess
30: Dwarven Defender(15): Epic Dodge
31: Dwarven Defender(16)
32: Rogue(15): DEX+1, (DEX=30)
33: Rogue(16): Self Concealment I, Self Concealment II
34: Rogue(17)
35: Rogue(18)
36: Rogue(19): CON+1, Self Concealment III, Self Concealment IV, (CON=20)
37: Dwarven Defender(17)
38: Rogue(20)
39: Rogue(21): Self Concealment V
40: Dwarven Defender(18): CON+1, Epic Damage Reduction I, (CON=21)

Rogue(21), Dwarven Defender(18), Harper Scout(1), Dwarf

STR: 9
DEX: 18 (30)
CON: 19 (21)
WIS: 8
INT: 8
CHA: 6

Hitpoints: 588
Skillpoints: 189
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 25/21/30
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +2, Traps: +6, Poison: +2
BAB: 27
AB (max, naked): 39 (melee), 38 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 28/31
Spell Casting: None
Alignment Changes: 0

Disable Trap 16(15), Discipline 4(3), Heal 2(1), Hide 40(50), Lore 6(8), Move Silently 26(36), Open Lock 1(11), Persuade 8(6), Search 4(3), Tumble 40(50), UMD 42(40)



Notes:
- His attributes are min/maxed and I couldn't even get his strength up to 10
- He has ED, SCV, 15 DR, 11d6 SA, UMD and 588 HP
- Unfortunately without Sneak Attacks he does not have a way of hurting his opponents in melee. UMD might help if he gets his hands on scrolls and wands

That's all folks...
Quote: Posted 05/11/06 09:32:07 (GMT) -- jvanhezewyk

- He has ED, SCV, 15 DR, 11d6 SA, UMD and 588 HP

Pretty cool! I think that beats Kail's earlier build, too
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Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan

[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five.
[...]