Not really playable 1-40 Although it can stay with you at lvl 40 I found out.
The only thing about this build is that it has the highest possible AB for an NwN character, though it requires a few criteria to be fulfilled. I know this guild demands naked stats, so I will give you those first.
He isn't to bad at lvl 40, except for damage, of course. Even saves are doable. But he gets the highest AB possible for a NwN character.
Criteria: Evil opponent, max STR, Max CHA, able to taunt him max. +20 weapon. Yeah, not very realistic.
AB 55 +6 DEX +20 Sword +6 Taunt +9 Smite 96
Don't know what more to say, really, except: DON'T TRY TO LEVEL UP THIS ONE!!!!
Oh, and a challenge. Beat my max AB if you can. I managed 92 in a ranger/Bard/Pal and a fighter/Bard/Pal.
Grim out.
Edited title on author's request - Kail Pendragon _________________ Dragonlance ROH is back, better than before! and I spend a little time here WoG
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 05/09/06 13:55
sry to disagree but the highest ab possible is fighter 11 wm 28 druid 1 =]
Perhaps you should give the math, then, if you claim such a thing. _________________
Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan
[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five. [...]
Taunt isn't really a + to AB, and +20 is the max attack bonus you can have.
You can get +6 from maxed DEX tho.
Good build, I like it.
Quote: Posted 05/08/06 17:18:54 (GMT) -- __OvO__
Taunt isn't really a + to AB, and +20 is the max attack bonus you can have.
Taunt lowers the opponent's AC which is effectively the same as rising your own AB.
He has calculated the +20 in, yes. _________________
Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan
[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five. [...]
Also, why not start with more CHA if it's not even meant to be playable? _________________
Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan
[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five. [...]
Well done Grim, the 96 AB is impressive. It gets what it says it does. It deserves a place in the Epic Character Builds page, definitely.
Cheers, Kail _________________ To hear the sound of Freedom, many gave their lives They fought for you and me Those memories will always live inside us, and now it's our time to be free
Also, why not start with more CHA if it's not even meant to be playable?
You can free up at most 1 stat point, from INT. No way to raise CHA, unless you lower DEX, which makes it pointless.
Cheers, Kail _________________ To hear the sound of Freedom, many gave their lives They fought for you and me Those memories will always live inside us, and now it's our time to be free
Also, why not start with more CHA if it's not even meant to be playable?
You can free up at most 1 stat point, from INT. No way to raise CHA, unless you lower DEX, which makes it pointless.
Cheers, Kail
Yes, I know. That's one more AB on a Smite, which I believe was the point in this build. The have the highest _________________
Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan
[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five. [...]
1 more AB on a smite but 1 less AB to start with which you get +0 AB in the end. INT must be 13 at least for WM prerequisites, there's no way to raise AB further.
1 more AB on a smite but 1 less AB to start with which you get +0 AB in the end. INT must be 13 at least for WM prerequisites, there's no way to raise AB further.
Oh right Sorry, I'm a bit slow, still. Didn't sleep much in Paris Or perhaps I'm just stupid _________________
Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan
[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five. [...]
1 more AB on a smite but 1 less AB to start with which you get +0 AB in the end. INT must be 13 at least for WM prerequisites, there's no way to raise AB further.
Oh right Sorry, I'm a bit slow, still. Didn't sleep much in Paris Or perhaps I'm just stupid
Having read your post in the other forum, I'd say that's only good for you
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sry to disagree but the highest ab possible is fighter 11 wm 28 druid 1 =]
So the +2 from Druid will beat +9 from smite and +6 from taunt? Yeah right. I don't think he can reach the ranger/Pal/Bard or fighter/Pal/Bard at 92 even.
I think, just by doing a quick mindwrench, that he could reach 83. Just 1 above the famous Fighter/HS/WM, which my fella beats with 14.
Yeah, Finn, good for you.
Like I said, if anyone can lay waste to my claim, please do so. But I think it's not possible.
On his own with mundane equipment he won't be at the top, but his AB at lvl 40 is 55, and he has nice AC.
He's kinda like the Attack Bonus adept. You all know the damage adept, right? Not really playable, but best at his one thing.
*edit* Actually, i have done my best to keep him as playable as possible without losing the max AB. Still not very playable, though. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Edited By Grimnir77 on 05/08/06 19:08
You could get higher with a 40 dex AA (with high taunt), I think.
Math time:
+15 normal dex +6 extra dex +15 AA +3 wf/ewf +29 BAB +20 bow +6 taunt (is higher than +6 possible?) = 94
Which your build beats by two, because of smite. Still, this keeps its AB against non-evil opponents. _________________ CATS!
55 with a normal sword is very high, the AB is superb. Although it's hard to believe your base AB of 55 beats the AA base AB of 59... you can't make smite with ranged I suppose....
Of course, you need a extremely high magical items for this guy, you're counting +20 equipment and DEX and CHA capped, while he has no buffs. Smite Evil really won't work, but it is possible, so it was very clever.
I like the concept, and the AB amount is just impressive, aside from whataver real power the build may get itself, way to go Grim.
I just got 97 on an archer build, which I'll post in a moment.
*edit* Posted.
Edited By Nimueh_Leafbow on 05/09/06 00:59
Okay Kail, edit it to melee AB, sorry to not specify. Everyone knows the AA is the highest AB'er in the game. But 1 point lower? That's closer than what I hoped for, and it pleases me. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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I think I can tie the 96 with an STR build. It all depends on if the disarm AB bonus still works (it's been a while since I checked). If it does I can tie the 96, If not the best I could manage with STR was 95 from a Pally/Bard/RDD and/or CoT/Bard/RDD build. I'll post when I know more. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
ok sry my post was a little misleading what i meant was natural ab =] not increased or decreased by class skills and feats =]
Your post is false, then. "Natural AB", if defined how you define it as, would not include the Druid's wilderness area bonus and thus you'd have a lower AB than a Fighter/WM/HS. _________________
Quote: Posted 04/26/06 12:05:52 (GMT) -- Ithacan
[...]Harper Scout, the only class so powerful it's capped at five. [...]
I think I can tie the 96 with an STR build. It all depends on if the disarm AB bonus still works (it's been a while since I checked). If it does I can tie the 96, If not the best I could manage with STR was 95 from a Pally/Bard/RDD and/or CoT/Bard/RDD build. I'll post when I know more.
Hm, I'm impressed if you can.
The CHA bonus (if not H-Orc) will increase Smite by 1. Size will remove 1. Taunt is the same. RDD will increase AB by 4, my WM increases it by 7. Then curse song is the only way to be able to tip the scales. Let's see, -5 at bard lvl 16. That will lower your BAB by 2, should be possible to reach the same with that. so yes. but not surpass. Never thought a Strength build could do that. Don't think it's possible with CoT as you would lose another BAB from it. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Taunt isn't really a + to AB, and +20 is the max attack bonus you can have.
Sorry, I'm a bit slow, still. Didn't sleep much in Paris 
