A playable version of the Damage Adept and of its predecessor Paladin 17/CoT 18/WM 5 by cdaulepp, this build goes up to Great Smite V, "sacrificing" damage output for increased playability. Not that the maximum damage you can dish out is all that bad, honestly
The Holy Reaper is a great boss killer that can hold his own in regular fights thanks to his buffs. HPs are kinda low unfortunately, Boots of Striding are definitely on your wish list along with STR and CHA gear (belts, gloves, cloacks and helmets mostly)
Build originally posted in this topic.
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Holy Reaper - Paladin(15), Champion of Torm(18), Weapon Master(7) Human, Lawful Good PvM, Playable 1-40
LEVELING GUIDE 01: Paladin(1): Weapon Proficiency Exotic#, Weapon Focus: Scythe# 02: Paladin(2): {Smite Evil} 03: Paladin(3): Expertise 04: Paladin(4): CHA+1, (CHA=15) 05: Paladin(5) 06: Paladin(6): Dodge 07: Paladin(7) 08: Champion of Torm(1): CHA+1, (CHA=16) 09: Champion of Torm(2): Spring Attack, Mobility 10: Champion of Torm(3) 11: Champion of Torm(4): Whirlwind Attack 12: Weapon Master(1): CHA+1, Power Attack, Weapon of Choice: Scythe#, (CHA=17) 13: Weapon Master(2) 14: Weapon Master(3) 15: Paladin(8): Divine Shield 16: Weapon Master(4): CHA+1, (CHA=18) 17: Weapon Master(5) 18: Paladin(9): Divine Might 19: Weapon Master(6) 20: Paladin(10): CHA+1, (CHA=19) 21: Weapon Master(7): Extra Smiting 22: Champion of Torm(5) 23: Champion of Torm(6): Epic Weapon Focus: Scythe# 24: Champion of Torm(7): CHA+1, Great Charisma I, (CHA=21) 25: Champion of Torm(8): Improved Critical: Scythe# 26: Paladin(11) 27: Paladin(12): Great Charisma II, (CHA=22) 28: Champion of Torm(9): CHA+1, (CHA=23) 29: Champion of Torm(10): Epic Prowess 30: Champion of Torm(11): Great Charisma III, (CHA=24) 31: Champion of Torm(12) 32: Paladin(13): CHA+1, (CHA=25) 33: Champion of Torm(13): Great Smite I 34: Champion of Torm(14): Great Smite II 35: Champion of Torm(15) 36: Champion of Torm(16): CHA+1, Great Smite III, (CHA=26) 37: Paladin(14) 38: Champion of Torm(17) 39: Champion of Torm(18): Great Smite IV, Great Smite V* 40: Paladin(15): WIS+1, (WIS=14)
*can be changed for AS if you feel Great Smite IV is enough (-33 dmg on a smite, -165 dmg on a critical smite) or maybe for toughness for +40 HPs
*A more interesting route is to go with Scimitar instead of Scythe and get KD with the WP: exotic slot. The Scimitar extended crit range will increase the chances to land a critical smite especially with a keen weapon. Minimum dmg output on a critical smite becomes 700 (see below for the scythe stats) which IMHO is more than enough. Given the limited amount of smites per day in this case I'm of the idea that Scimitar would actually serve the build better than Scythe.
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AB STATS
AB (mundane Scythe): 37 AB (self buffed): 58 (DF, Bless, Aid, BS, prayer, HS, DW) AB (max): 63 (capped STR)
Smite Evil: +8/+14 capped CHA
Max AB: 77 capped AB, STR, CHA on a smite
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DAMAGE OUTPUT ON A SMITE
2-8 base scythe damage output +3 STR mod times 1.5 +9 capped STR +5 GMW/Holy Sword or +5 scythe +5 Divine Favour +3 Deafening Clang +1 Prayer +7 Divine Wrath +1-6 Holy Sword vs evil +8-14 Divine Might +198 Great Smite V (33 paladin+CoT lvl times 6) ---
242-259 on a smite
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1210-1295 on a critical smite
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Feedback and constructive criticism is, as usual, gladly appreciated.
PS: thanks to Okembour for opening my eyes about the crit range in such a build (see the topic in which the build was originally posted)
Cheers, Kail _________________ To hear the sound of Freedom, many gave their lives They fought for you and me Those memories will always live inside us, and now it's our time to be free
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 02/23/10 02:33
Aye, Scimitar would increase his playablity too, since you get a shield. About time this was done, since the original Damage Adept wasn't really playable at all. Actually, it was just as much a gimmick-build as my halfling max-AB'er.
Nice job. Although it's still highly feat-stacrved. At least it's quite playable. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Lowish AB unbuffed, but the smite damage is awesome enough that it's not an issue.
Scimitar would be better, yeah ... given that you would have a much higher chance of landing 3 critical smites in a row. Plus you would have a shield and knockdown. _________________ CATS!
Nice adaptation... I second the scimmy/shield proposition, especially once you get into magic equipment a shield is worth a lot of AC. _________________ Experience is the mother of good judgement; bad judgement is the father of experience.
Thanks guys! Scythe was left in the build more for theme reasons or better say because of the origin of the build and to have a more direct comparison with the damage adept.
I'd definitely go with scimmy and board and my tests have confirmed it's the best solution. KD comes in handy, although I could definitely do with a couple more feats (IKd, blind fight, toughness).
AB is lowish, but normal for a Great Smiter build. I'm satisfied with the results; the build, especially the scimitar wielding version, is playable and I can't get rid of that big smile on my face when I land a critical smite
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This is a nice modification to the damage adept build,it does increase playability but I think the Paladin 26/Fighter 4/CoT 10 you had on the other thread was a bit better overall. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Thanks Mith. I share your opinion about the other build and I'm actually testing it before posting it. You never know what mistakes could b ehidden in drafted builds
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Nice build, and neat concept re: scythe wielding pally. FTR would get your AB up, but for a smiter, your AB here is normal (pretty good actually, you've access to many self-buffs, then there's that great smiting damage; only one crit smite being necessary Agree with everyone that scimitar for more potential crits and shield use, but the scythe.
Perseus, apparently, was armed with a scythe when he cut off the head of Medusa! Really cool for RP. Cool visual, and also playable -- really neat!
Aye, Scimitar would increase his playablity too, since you get a shield. About time this was done, since the original Damage Adept wasn't really playable at all. Actually, it was just as much a gimmick-build as my halfling max-AB'er.
Nice job. Although it's still highly feat-stacrved. At least it's quite playable.
I chose a scimitar for my very similar build too (The Smiting Knight Of Vor Paladin 23/WM 7/CoT 10). I suppose these two are very similar, just mine was an attempt to typically get 1000 damage on a Smite Crit, and get a critical hit 50% of the time. This is a good build though, I like the idea of a Scythe Wielding Paladin.
I believe the Divine Harper is one of the most playable smiters as well.
Hey, Kail. Seein' as Grim and I were recently discussing your oh so nice reaper and the wonderful improvements you made to the Adept, just thought I'd pop by and post a link in here. This, so folks can get another gander at that rather amazin' crit smite damage of yours, (potentially xs 3 as you've 3 Smite Attacks and also to see what spells pallys get to choose from. As a 15th level pally, with 14 wis, you get access to some cool pally buffs (as in, some good spell access which, although vulnerable to dispelling and maybe not of the greatest duration, should still be of assistance to you in various situations/environments, & thus shouldn't be so terribly neglected and/or overlooked). Ah, talk about reapin' devastation against evil forces - and talk about improvements!- just one crit smite, all ya needs is one! And if yer trying to convince all smiters everywhere to forget about that "big knife/greatsword" so typically associated with the class ...
Nice, Kail. Once again, well done and playable, indeed!
Evil beware, this one can dish enough to kill in one hit 98% of builds.
Well, if he were evil (Blackguard comes to mind) he would be death incarnated, that would be a cool concept, not saying this one isn't cool enough.
Awesome critical smite damage, but I agree for the scimitar, your STR is not high enough to take advantage of a two handed weapon, so a scimitar gets a better effect, aside from Crit chances and all, a scimitar wouldn't get the crazy 1000 crit power though, but overall more damage.
Great build, in every sense of the word Great.
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Thanks for the kind words Debbie.
Okembour, buddy, yeah, thank you for having me look at that issue from a different and more correct perspective. Sometimes one gets stuck with one's own beliefs which although generally right can have their shortcomings, like in this case about the crit range in this build.
Smite on!
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Agree with everyone that scimitar for more potential crits and shield use, but the scythe.
and also to see what spells pallys get to choose from. As a 15th level pally, with 14 wis, you get access to some cool pally buffs (as in, some good spell access which, although vulnerable to dispelling and maybe not of the greatest duration, should still be of assistance to you in various situations/environments, & thus shouldn't be so terribly neglected and/or overlooked). Ah, talk about reapin' devastation against evil forces - and talk about improvements!- just one crit smite, all ya needs is one! 