He's practically a second version of my Arcane Knight of Lathander (Fighter 6 / Cleric 16 / Wizard 18) but just V2 didn't sound right to me since this is no Knight, but a DEX based Monk to avoid my previous stilling issue.
He's got all Cleric and Wizard spells (except Enchantment spells of course) and Monk's cheese (Cleave, Evasion, Deflect Arrows, Flurry of Blows, Monk AC bonus and Monk AB progression) his main problem is that he relies all his melee power on buffs, so he's pretty much screwed if dispelled (although nothing can dispel so many buffs at once), still, he has a lot of offensive spells too, so I think he's got enough to be feared, very powerful for low magical environments.
Level 40 build, but it's playable 1-40 PvM and PvP
Human
Any Lawful
Abilities: STR 8 DEX 15 (22) CON 14 WIS 14 (20) INT 16 (19) CHA 8
1 Monk1 - Ambidexterity, Two Weapon Fighting 2 Cleric1 - Domains: Plant and War 3 Cleric2 - Weapon Finesse 4 Cleric3 - WIS +1 (15) 5 Cleric4 6 Cleric5 - Weapon Focus: kama 7 Cleric6 8 Cleric7 - WIS +1 (16) 9 Cleric8 - Extend Spell 10 Cleric9 11 Cleric10 12 Cleric11 - WIS +1 (17), Blind-Fight 13 Cleric12 14 Cleric13 15 Cleric14 - Improved Two Weapon Fighting 16 Cleric15 - WIS +1 (18) 17 Cleric16 18 Cleric17 - Toughness 19 Illusionist1 20 Illusionist2 - WIS +1 (19) 21 Illusionist3 - Epic Weapon Focus: kama 22 Illusionist4 23 Illusionist5 - Great Intelligence I (17) 24 Illusionist6 - DEX +1 (16), Epic Prowess 25 Illusionist7 26 Illusionist8 27 Illusionist9 - Great Dexterity I (17) 28 Illusionist10 - DEX +1 (18), Great Intelligence II (18) 29 Illusionist11 30 Illusionist12 - Great Dexterity II (19) 31 Illusionist13 32 Illusionist14 - DEX +1 (20) 33 Illusionist15 - Great Dexterity III (21), Great Intelligence III (19) 34 Illusionist16 35 Illusionist17 36 Illusionist18 - DEX +1 (22), Armor Skin 37 Illusionist19 38 Illusionist20 - Empowered Spell 39 Illusionist21 - Epic Spell: Epic Warding 40 Monk2 - WIS +1 (20)
Any ideas for skills? Hide/Move Silently sounds pretty stupid with Improved Invisibility and no sneak attack, while Heal is just not what a Cleric uses and Discipline checks are lower than my buffed AC...
Saving Throws: Fortitude: 25 (+8 vs spells) Reflex: 24 (+8 vs spells) Will: 30 (+8 vs spells)
HP: 360 AC: 31 (10 Base +6 DEX, +5 WIS, +8 Tumble, +2 Armor Skin) BAB 23 AB Mainhand: +31/+28/+25/+22/+19 AB Offhand: +31/+28 Damage: 1d6 -1 Critical X2/20
AC Enhancements: +5 DEX (Empowered Cat's Grace, Aura of Vitality) +3 WIS (Empowered Owl's Wisdom) Barkskin: +5 (Natural) Shield of Faith: +5 (Deflection) Magic Vestment: +5 (Armor) Haste +4 (Dodge) Undeath's Eternal Foe +4 (Dodge) Buffed AC: 62
AB Enhancements: +5 DEX (Empowered Cat's Grace, Aura of Vitality) +5 Divine Favor +6 Divine Power +2 Battletide +5 Greater Magic Weapon +1 Bless +1 Aid +1 Prayer (overcap) Buffed AB: +56
HP Enhancements: +120 HP Empowered Endurance +80 HP Aura of Vitality +18 HP Divine Power Buffed HP: 578
Body Enhancements: Epic Warding or Premonition Undeath's Eternal Foe Haste Negative Energy Protection Freedom of Movement Shadow Shield Protection from spells Spell Mantle Improved Invisibility Death Armor Elemental Shield Mestil's Acid Sheath True Seeing Spell Resistance (30) Regenerate Energy Buffer
Pros: Lots of spells Good buffed stats
Cons: Low unbuffed stats (only AC is decent) Lack of feats
I really don't understand why there are so few Cleric/Wizard builds, it's a fantastic combination, he's got a lot of combat buffs and shield spells against melees, as well as DR, the same against ranged, plus Deflect Arrow in this one, spells and heal against casters, as well as melee, and finally, one of the most devastating techniques in the game: using Harm while in Time Stop, I'm not quite sure, but I believe Time Stop allows you to attack the enemy flat-footed, which makes it pretty easy to hit, and then make a finishing blow or spell before he can react, only few can stand such might.
Build edited at builders request. Corrected mistakes. Grim
Edited By Grimnir77 on 08/20/06 01:56
Hmm I like this build. I might give it a try
-alch
Pretty strong combo, but any build with 20 wizard or sorcerer levels is pretty strong. The cleric levels give you a ton of buffs for a good melee AB and monk levels give you that cheesy goodness. Tough as nails against anything but a pure arcane caster, and even then you have spells to give you a shot there. Nicely done.
Umm... don't you need to be an epic wizard to take an epic spell? Checking the 2DA it doesn't look like it, but I thought you needed to. _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
Edited By Mithdradates on 08/14/06 09:24
I played a similiar build once, and I think the only drawback I found was you don't feel the power of a build like this until the advanced epic levels. I wouldn't play a build like this 1-40 as I've found that to be a grueling exercise, but once you get high level spells in both classes you are definitely a force to be reckoned with. The addition of monk is very interesting. Nicely done, and your TS + Harm tactic sounds pretty nasty! _________________ Favorite PW's: Hall of the Worlds, Higher Ground, World of Iniquity.
I was sure you needed to be an epic caster to get epic spells. Perhaps it's similar to the 'epic' Bard and Lasting Inspiration and you only need 20 levels. This will bear investigation...
Cool build though Thax. _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
I played one of these (went 17/17/6 for even more cheese), and the biggest problem I had with it was that it took way longer to buff than it did to finish any given fight. You seriously don't have enough quickslots to put all your buffs unless you leave out everything you consistently use in combat. Still, in low-magic settings, there's nothing other meleers can do about a build like this.
Quote: Umm... don't you need to be an epic wizard to take an epic spell? Checking the 2DA it doesn't look like it, but I thought you needed to.
Hmmm, I think it's actually a mistake of mine, guess I got too happy with the bonus feat... I'll PM a mod with arrangements briefly, I'd say Epic Warding is worth it losing a Cleric level, level 9 spells are maintained anyhow.
Thanks
Nice goings, Thax. Even with one less cleric, so what: you've all your spells still, all those great buffs, and very good use of monk here, too! (me likes )
Edited By TyrTemplar on 08/18/06 04:14
Good build here Thax, but like you say, you'll run out of quickslots. _________________ I see the fear you have inside, you can run but never hide. I will hunt you down and tear you limb from limb.
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Pretty strong combo, but any build with 20 wizard or sorcerer levels is pretty strong. The cleric levels give you a ton of buffs for a good melee AB and monk levels give you that cheesy goodness. Tough as nails against anything but a pure arcane caster, and even then you have spells to give you a shot there. Nicely done.
I played one of these (went 17/17/6 for even more cheese), and the biggest problem I had with it was that it took way longer to buff than it did to finish any given fight. You seriously don't have enough quickslots to put all your buffs unless you leave out everything you consistently use in combat. Still, in low-magic settings, there's nothing other meleers can do about a build like this.
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