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This split of classes is offensive overpower, and banned from many servers. You can wipe the floor with almost any other character with a B/F/RDD10 because of their extremly powerful offensive melee attributes. Their only weakness is AC, saves and defense against magic.
I have sacrificed some of this offensive overpower for defence, to make a more balanced character. Boosting all saves and HP. He is going sword and board to increase AC, and must be unlucky to fail a spellsave. There is still more than enough offensive power left.

No devastating critical, it would ban this build from almost any server around.

Simular builds:
The Bull-Roarer: The Strongest Halfling in the World: Bard16/Fighter14/RDD10
Singing Meleer Bard 20/RDD 10/Fighter 10
Sings With Dragon (and Big Sword) Bard 22/Fighter 8/RDD 10
Taloned Wandering Minstrel /Bard 26/Fighter 4/RDD 10

Plusses:
- Very good offense (AB53+taunt undispellable, 213HP DAM/round against AC50)
- Good overall defence (OK AC and HP, Improved Invisibility, Ethereal Visage, Energy Buffer and good saves)
- Very good skillset
- Max Bard spells and good Bard song and curse song
- Lasting inspiration
- UMD 25 (scrolls, wands, Holy Avenger)
- Combat feats
- Extend spell and Still spell
- Epic Taunt
- 15-20 critical threat range (12-20 with Keen Edge buff)

Minuses (not much actually):
- Spell buffs easy to dispell
- Good bard epic

Race: Human
Alignment: True Neutral
PvM, PvP (not recommended in devcrit. environment), Playable level 1-40
Ability stats:
STR: 16 (34)
DEX: 10
CON: 14 (16)
WIS: 8
INT: 14 (16)
CHA: 14 (16)

Leveling:

1. Bard 1, Luck of Heroes, Power Attack
2. Fighter 1, Blind Fight
3. Fighter 2, Cleave, Weapon Focus: Scimitar
4. Fighter 3, STR +1 (17)
5. Fighter 4, Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
6. RDD 1, Knockdown, STR +2 (19)
7. RDD 2
8. RDD 3, STR +1 (20)
9. Bard 2, Curse Song
10. Fighter 5
11. Fighter 6, Improved Critical: Scimitar
12. RDD 4, STR +1 (21), Extend Spell, STR +2 (23)
13. RDD 5
14. RDD 6
15. RDD 7, Toughness, CON +2 (16)
16. RDD 8, STR +1 (24)
17. RDD 9, INT +2 (16)
18. RDD 10, Still Spell, STR +4 (28), CHA +2 (16)
19. Bard 3
20. Bard 4, STR +1 (29)
21. Bard 5, Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar
22. Bard 6
23. Bard 7
24. Bard 8, STR +1 (30), Epic Skill Focus: Taunt
25. Bard 9
26. Bard 10
27. Bard 11, Epic Reflexes
28. Bard 12, STR +1 (31)
29. Bard 13
30. Bard 14, Epic Will
31. Bard 15
32. Bard 16, STR +1 (32)
33. Bard 17, Epic Fortitude
34. Bard 18
35. Bard 19
36. Fighter 7, STR +1 (33), Armor Skin
37. Fighter 8, Epic Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
38. Fighter 9
39. Bard 20, Lasting Inspiration
40. Fighter 10, STR +1 (34), Epic Prowess

Basic stats (mundane full plate, tower shield and scimitar):

Skillpoints: 284, distributed (modified, buffed with song)
Concentration 43 (47, 53)
Discipline 43 (54, 60)
Lore 8 (31, 37)
Perform 42 (45)
Persuade 2 (5, 11)
Spellcraft 42 (45, 51)
Taunt 42 (55, 61)
Tumble 40 (40, 46)
UMD 22 (25, 31)

Hitpoints: 504
Saving throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 31/27/24 (+9 vs spells)
BAB: 26
AB and damage with scimitar: 42/37/32/27, 1d6+17 (15-20 x2)
AC with full plate: 35

With buffs (Bard song, GMW, Bull's, War Cry, Haste, Keen Edge, Taunt, Curse song, Mage Armor):
AB: 41 + 2(Bull's) + 2(War Cry) + 2(Bard Song) + 5(GMW) + 5(Curse Song) = 57/52/47/42/57 (+ 1-6 on a successful taunt)
DAM: 1d6+24 (12-20 x2) +5
With wounding whispers 1d6+20 pr. hit suffered
AC: 35 + 4(MA) + 5(Bard song) + 4(Haste) + 2(Curse Song) = 50
Saves (Bard Song, Resistance): 35/31/27, 45/41/37 Against Spells

Average damage output pr. round (only Bard Song and curse song/fully buffed) against:
AC 30: 116/213
AC 40: 108/213
AC 50: 70/213
AC 60: 22/180
AC 70: 5/92
AC 80: 5/20
AC 30&DR 21: 36/113
AC 40&DR 21: 34/113
AC 50&DR 21: 22/113
AC 60&DR 21: 6/96
AC 70&DR 21: 1/48
AC 80&DR 21: 1/9
AC 30&Critical Immune: 89/154
AC 40&Critical Immune: 83/154
AC 50&Critical Immune: 54/154
AC 60&Critical Immune: 18/130
AC 70&Critical Immune: 5/68
AC 80&Critical Immune: 5/18

Bard spell selection (Known, spells pr. day)
Level 0: 5, 4, any
Level 1: 5, 5, Balagarn's iron horn, Mage Armor, Magic Weapon, Protection from Alignment, Grease
Level 2: 5, 5, Bull's Strength, Ghostly Visage, Silence, Clarity, See Invisibility
Level 3: 5, 5, Greater Magic Weapon, Keen Edge, Haste, Wounding Whispers, Dispel Magic
Level 4: 5, 4, Improved Invisibility, War Cry, Dismissal, +2 more
Level 5: 5, 4, Greater Dispelling, Ethereal Visage, +3 more
Level 6: 4, 4, Energy Buffer, Dirge, Ice Storm, Mass Haste

Abilities:
20 Bard songs (100 rounds): +2 AB, +3 DAM, +2 fortitude, +3 will, +2 reflex, +24HP, +5AC, +6 skills
20 curse songs (10 rounds): -2 AB, -3 DAM, -2 fortitude, -3 will, -2 reflex, -24HP, -5AC, -6 skills
Taunt DC 55 (61 with song)

Tactics: Save spell buffs to use only when really needed. Always sing and start curse song when needed. Use see invisibility againts hidden foes. Hack and slash.
Against Mages: Dispel and Greater Dispel, Energy Buffer, Silence, Holy Avenger, Epic Taunt (applying 30% spell failure), Scrolls (spell breaches, mordenkainen, flame arrow), Ethereal Visage, hack and slash.


Fixed some errors - Kail Pendragon

Edited By Kail Pendragon on 10/04/06 06:40

Ending Strength looks like it should be 34, 16 Base +8 RDD +10 Level Ups. I would probably go Bard 8 / RDD 8 / Ftr 4 pre epic to push a fighter bonus feat into epic without losing anything in AB.

I'd probably trade out a couple of feats and grab two great strengths in Epic to boost AB a little more. 26 Base + 13 Strength (36) +1 WF +1 EP + 2 EWF = 43 unbuffed.

Nice build overall!
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Edited By Highlander44 on 10/01/06 01:19

Thx for correcting. STR is 34 but Con is 16. AB 42 and HP 464. I really dont agree trading 2 epic saves for 1AB/DAM in this killer is smart. AB/DAM is by my means more than enough anyway so I prefer better saves and epic taunt to not be roasted by mages. Mages and other B/F/RDD's are the only foes that really can challenge this guy.

Edited By blixen71 on 10/01/06 01:38

Quote: Posted 10/01/06 00:28:33 (GMT) -- blixen71
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Race: Human
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Ability stats:
STR: 16 (32)
DEX: 10
CON: 16 (18)
WIS: 8
INT: 14 (16)
CHA: 14 (16)
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may be my fading math skills, but how did you start a character with this point spread. seems like you got some extra points to play with. or is it just me?

i think perhaps CON should be 14? either that or CHA or INT have to go.

-cs Similar builds from the search engine:

The Skillful Minstrel Bard 24/Fighter 6/RDD 10 by Cinnabar Din
Taloned Wandering Minstrel /Bard 26/Fighter 4/RDD 10 by I…Samphus
Sings With Dragon (and Big Sword) Bard 22/Fighter 8/RDD 10 by Ithacan
The Irksome Wonder (Bard 16/Fighter 14/RDD 10) by Mithdradates
The Irksome Wonder v2 /Bard 16/Fighter 14/RDD 10 by Mithdradates
Singing Meleer /Bard 20/RDD 10/Fighter 10 by Stephen Hawking
Sings with Hammer /Bard 26/Fighter 4/RDD 10 by Talamier
The Tendorizing Tenor /Fighter 14/ Bard 16/ RDD 10 by theshadow0015
Bard 16/Fighter 14/RDD 10 by Urgos

Please, next time do some research on similar builds and post a short comment about what makes your build different from the already exsisting ones. Thank you.


Cheers,
Kail
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Edited By Kail Pendragon on 10/01/06 08:33

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Against Mages: Dispel and Greater Dispel

Any respectable mage will be undispellable. That said, you have Holy Avenger which will probably ruin their whole day. You should also be able to Taunt them, giving 30% spell failure as often as you feel like. 30%!!! That's huge. But I don't need to tell you that. Nice build. To Kail. The difference between this build and almost all other B/F/RDD's you referred to is that this one balances offence and defence, and is maximizing its defence and fighting against mages, since thats the biggest treat Thanks for the fast answer blixen, it helps understanding the build knowing the differences between your chosen path and others already walked


Cheers,
Kail
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Quote: Posted 09/25/06 11:58:10 (GMT) by xitooner

I find its better to be flexible, THINK, and know your enemy.
After testing this build I wanted to further strengthen AC. This makes him better against typical melee builds with strong AB and limited AC. He can now raise AC to 60 while still having an AB potential about 50 (no magic items involved). I have dropped power attack and cleave for improved expertise.

I also tested it in PvP. He fell to devastating critical too often, so he is not recommended in dev crit environment. Other then that he did very well in any environment.

There where some typing errors in the initial post:
Starting ability stats: Str 16, Dex 10, Con 14, Wis 8, Int 14, Cha 14
Ending with: Str 34, Dex 10, Con 16, Wis 8, Int 16, Cha 16
Base AB is 42
Saves 31/27/24 +9 vs spell
Focus in Scimitar not Longsword I would probably take lvls 19-21 as fighter and obtain EWS Longsword sooner. No need to push so many fighter levels so late in life. Save lvl 40 as your fighter to max out disc. This will also give you a better AB.
Quote: Posted 10/03/06 15:38:49 (GMT) -- Bromium

I would probably take lvls 19-21 as fighter and obtain EWS Longsword sooner. No need to push so many fighter levels so late in life. Save lvl 40 as your fighter to max out disc. This will also give you a better AB.

Bard has got discipine as a class skill, the reason to take fighter on the 40th lvl is to allow LI, not to max out discipline. Also, AB is not gonna change with your suggestion.

That said, FTR 8 can be easily taken much earlier for an earlier EWS.


Cheers,
Kail
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Edited By Kail Pendragon on 10/04/06 06:42

Quote: Posted 10/03/06 15:29:52 (GMT) -- blixen71
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There where some typing errors in the initial post:
Starting ability stats: Str 16, Dex 10, Con 14, Wis 8, Int 14, Cha 14
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who cast silence on me?

-cs
Quote: Posted 10/04/06 01:23:54 (GMT) -- christian.schnabel

Quote: Posted 10/03/06 15:29:52 (GMT) -- blixen71
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There where some typing errors in the initial post:
Starting ability stats: Str 16, Dex 10, Con 14, Wis 8, Int 14, Cha 14
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who cast silence on me?

-cs

The same evil mage that cast delayed edit on me
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Leave the hall! Fighter 21,22,38,40 of course I agree EWS early is nice. As Kail said Lasting Inspiration can only be taken on a Bard20+ raise so level 39 is only option for Bard 20.
To Bromium:
Going 7 fighter pre-epic doesn't raise BAB and Disc is maxed out yes

Edited By blixen71 on 10/04/06 08:17