This is my first build posted here. I didnt know it, but there are a few others similar to it. I believe this one is more playable than those builds from 1 to 40.


Two blades are better than One - Fighter 12/ Monk 9/ Weapon Master 19
Playable 1-40 PvM (untested PvP)
Human
Any Lawful


STR 16 (32)
DEX 15
CON 14
WIS 8
INT 14
CHA 8

HPs: 522
BAB 28
AB w/two-bladed sword 45/40/35/30
off hand 45/40
Crit Range 15-20/x3
Damage 1d8+17/1d8+11
Naked AC 23

Saves
Fort 25
Reflex 24
Will 18

Save boni: +2 vs Mind affecting spells, +4 vs Spells, Improved Evasion

Skills
Skillpoints: 233

Concentration 43
Discipline 43
Listen 43
Tumble 40
Spell Craft 20
Intimidate must be 4 for WM
20 points leftover

Leveling guide
1. Fighter (1) Exotic Weapon Prof, Ambidextrity, 2-weapon fighting
2. Monk (1)
3. Fighter (2) Weapon Focus, Blind Fight
4. Fighter (3) STR
5. Monk (2)
6. Fighter (4) Weapon Specialization, Dodge
7. Monk (3)
8. Fighter (5) STR
9. Fighter (6) Mobility, Spring Attack
10. Monk (4)
11. Fighter (7)
12. Fighter (8) STR, Expertise, Whirlwind Attack
13. WM (1)
14. WM (2)
15. Monk (5) Improved 2-weapon fighting
16. WM (3) STR
17. WM (4)
18. WM (5) Toughness
19. WM (6)
20. Monk (6) STR
21. WM (7) Epic Weapon Focus
22. WM (8)
23. Fighter (9)
24. Fighter (10) STR, Great STR 1, Epic Weap Special
25. Monk (7)
26. Fighter (11)
27. Fighter (12) Great STR 2, Improved Critical
28. WM (9) STR
29. WM (10)
30. WM (11) Great STR 3
31. WM (12)
32. Monk (8) STR
33. WM (13) Great STR 4, Epic Prowess
34. WM (14)
35. WM (15)
36. WM (16) STR, Great STR 5, Armor Skin
37. WM (17)
38. WM (18)
39. WM (19) Great STR 6, Epic Toughness 1
40. Monk (9) STR

There it is. I apologize if I forgot anything. Weapon I chose is the two-bladed sword. I dont really understand the whole ab thing, I have 28 I know 30 is max. I dont know how to link other peoples builds that are similar to this to this post, apologies to them.

Any and all comments are welcome.


Tied up format, added some info - Kail Pendragon

Edited By Kail Pendragon on 10/18/06 07:06

Similar builds in the search engine:

The Cassiline Brother /Fighter 16/Monk 2/WM 22 by Acothea
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Spirit Warrior /Monk 14/Fighter 4/WM 22 by Amzard
Ko’di Blademaster /Fighter 12/WM 22/Monk 6 by Avendesora84
Kama Master /WM 25/Fighter 6/Monk 9 by DoOmRo
Samurai Swordmaster /Monk 6/Fighter 14/WM 20 by georgel
The Kensai /Monk 13/Fighter 8/WM 19 by Kamiryn
Ferocious Man-Chicken Of Doom /Fighter 6/Monk 18/WM 16 by Mithdradates
Dwarven Axe Master /Fighter 12/WM 19/Monk 9 by Talamier
Dwarven Axe Master V2 /Fighter 16/Monk 2/WM 22 by Talamier
The Humble Samurai /Fighter 14/WM 20/Monk 6 by Talamier
Discipline Knight /Monk 9/Fighter 12/WM 19 by TyrPaladin


Move two Monk lvls in epic for +1 AB. You can easily move 2 FTR lvl in preepic since you are using the Fighter bonus feat to grab IC. Rearranging feat order in Epic (by taking EWF as a WM bonus feat) you can change Epic Toughness into any general feat of your like.

Now the real question: where are kamas?!? You are a dual wielding monk and use a Two-bladed Sword? Do you realize that dual wielding kamas you'd get the -3 AB attack progression and 8 base attacks per round (10 hasted plus flurry of blows active)? You'd even save one feat going kamas, your choice is crippling your build. The AC is awful but not much can really be done about it: let's try to maximize your attack.

Starting Monk would net you +8 Skillpoints.

Regarding format (no biggy, don't worry): HPs must be maximum HPs , not what you got; skillpoints total is missing; boni to saves are missing too.

Regarding the "AB thing": check Terra's BAB Guide for clarification.

Regarding formatting and posting links: check the Formatting and using BBC code forum FAQ.

Check my sig for some other useful links.


Cheers,
Kail
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Useful links Thanks for the information Kail. I know that the kamas would be the smarter choice...I just wanted to make a build that used the two-bladed sword. So, yes, to maximize the build using the kamas would be a better choice. Is there a better class combination for using the two-bladed sword? Also, thank you for the links. I've got some reading to do! I re-worked this build using some suggestions from Kail. I think it is a lot better this way. Still no kamas...I enjoy using the 2-bladed sword. You could easily go that route though. Something I meant to ask when Kail first replied to this build...is a naked AC of 23 really that bad for a non-dexer?

Fighter 12/ Monk 9/ Weapon Master 19

Human

STR 16 (32)
DEX 15
CON 14
WIS 8
INT 14
CHA 8

*All Stat Raises go to STR*

Max HP 502
BAB 29
w/2-bladed sword 46/41/36/31 (1-8+17)
Off Hand 46/41 (1-8+11)
(15-20/x3)
AC (Naked) 23

Saves

Fort 25 (29)
Reflex 24 (28) (Improved Evasion)
Will 22 (26) (+2 vs Mind Affecting Spells)

Skills (207 total)

Concentration 43
Discipline 43
Listen 41
Tumble 40
Spellcraft 18
Intimidate 4 (for WM)
Points Left 18

1. Fighter (1) Ambidextrity, 2-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Proficiency: Exotic
2. Monk (1)
3. Fighter (2) Blind Fight, Weapon Focus
4. Fighter (3)
5. Fighter (4) Weapon Specialization
6. Fighter (5) Dodge
7. Monk (2)
8. Fighter (6) Mobility
9. Fighter (7) Spring Attack
10. Fighter (8) Expertise
11. Fighter (9)
12. Monk (3) Whirlwind Attack
13. WM (1)
14. WM (2)
15. WM (3) Improved 2-Weapon Fighting
16. Fighter (10)Improved Critical
17. Monk (4)
18. WM (4) Toughness
19. WM (5)
20. WM (6)
21. WM (7) Epic Will
22. Monk (5)
23. WM (8)
24. WM (9) Great STR I
25. WM (10)
26. WM (11)
27. Monk (6) Great STR II
28. WM (12)
29. WM (13) Epic Weapon Focus
30. Monk (7) Great STR III
31. Fighter (11)
32. Fighter (12)Epic Weapon Specialization
33. Monk (8) Great STR IV
34. WM (14)
35. WM (15)
36. WM (16) Great STR V, Epic Prowess
37. WM (17)
38. WM (18)
39. WM (19) Great STR VI, Armor Skin
40. Monk (9)
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"This is where we fight! This is where they die!" What are you using the monk levels for? You're not using kamas, so no -3 BAB progression. Wearing full plate gives you 19 AC + 8 for tumble, or 27 AC rather than your 23 AC. Monk speed? Is that really worth the lost special abilities from other classes? Monk gives cleave, knockdown and improved knockdown, improved evasion...all for free. As well as being able to put points in to tumble all through out the build. Also, I should have mentioned that this my attempt to create a "samurai" type warrior. A naked AC of 23 with dex of 15 and regular plate would give an AC of 29, right? With magical plate and other items of protection, I think his AC should be just fine. Especially considering this is mainly a PvM build.
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"This is where we fight! This is where they die!" 29 is correct. But you don't get armor skin until lvl 39 though, and should perhaps take it earlier.
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Quote: Posted 03/06/06 18:56:45 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ
Trollborn Asgardian by the master of the Norse legends, Grimnir himself!

I can't help but feel so many special abilities of the monk are just wasted. Monk just doesn't seem to give you much in this build, rogue seems more efficient, but I suppose that's another build in general. Still, I'd think something like Rogue 10/ Fighter 14 / Weapon Master 16 would be better. I think I concur with the Monk levels. Rogue would give Sneaks, Uncanny Dodge, skill points/skills, and the possibility of Crippling Strike, but there isn't much to lose in the way of a DEX bonus from being flat-footed, and Monk gives Cleave and IKD for free, saving four feats. I think that is a lot in any build, and especially a WM build. Why not lower dex to 14, and bump wisdom to 10? If you were able to max Dex, and get decent wisdom gear, you'd end up with more AC then in full plate, and you get the monk speed

But, I would try lowering starting STR to 14 and setting wisdom to 14 as well, so it would look like 14,14,14,14, 8 charisma. Need a Dex of 15 for ambidextrity. Wanted to start with high Str to get, what I consider, a very good AB with the two-bladed sword.
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"This is where we fight! This is where they die!" Don't you also loose monk bonus's in plate armor?
Quote: Posted 07/02/07 18:35 (GMT) -- Bulragus

Don't you also loose monk bonus's in plate armor?

Yes, but the only thing it would affect that could possibly matter to this build would be monk speed. Wisdom based AC and unarmed attacks dont have anything to do with this build. Not sure if im missing anything else.