AB: 29 base + 3 EWF + 1 EP + 8 Str = 41 + 5 GMW + 6 Str gear = 52 + 2 Bard Song = 54
Max HP: 392
Fort 29 (51 with epic gear*) + 2 Bard Song = 31 (53) Ref 22 (42 with epic gear) + 3 Bard Song = 35 (45) Will 21 (43 with epic gear) + 3 Bard Song = 24 (46)
*epic gear: +5 save rings and +12 to ability allocations.
One variant that I experimented with was starting Intelligence 14, starting Charisma 15. This adds 43 skill points (Concentration or Spellcraft) at the cost of the EER: Fire (you have to allocate a feat or an ability allocation to Charisma to end at the same stats).
Build to taste, build to forty.
Cheers,
Ithacan
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 06/10/10 02:51
Maybe im missing something here, but, why was elf chosen for this build?
Well, the true answer is because I like elves and disregard experience penalties because, after all, there are no experience penalties when you are forty. But if I am building without any ability to employ true sight, I usually prefer modal detect to give you some chance to either spot or listen to any sneakers/hipsters. With Amplify, this one's listen check will be quite high.
Ithacan
Good enough for me. Just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing something.
I'm afraid the name is already taken
Bad to the Bone (Bard 5/Palemaster 19/Blackguard 16)(pun fully intended)
I can't blame you though, there is no way to search the builds by name. _________________ The curve is more powerful than the sword -- BG courtesan
And the name actually is even more fitting for that build, what with the palemaster. . . How about The Raging Skald? Evil Bastard Skald? Big, Bad Barbarian Bard? Evil Raging Singer?
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Quote: Posted 04/25/07 11:13 (GMT) -- Mick Dagger
I can't blame you though, there is no way to search the builds by name.
Well, you can do a word search for "bad to the bone" on the Index thread. That will let you know if there's already a build by that name.
*edit* As for the name, how about "Death Metal?" Gets your BG (Death=evil), Barbarian (Metal=melee combat), and your Bard (music genre).
Edited By Nimueh_Leafbow on 04/25/07 15:43
Quote: Posted 04/24/07 21:32 (GMT) -- Ithacan
... there are no experience penalties when you are forty. ...
(OK, seriously kidding over here ..
Interesting build, Ithacan; as you say, re xp penalties, it's a level 40 build (heh, and how you stuffed it all in there - neat!); also, a really cool drow feel to it, too (that's cool!
As to a name, Raging Skald's taken (by Cinn I think); ah, but Leafbow's be a cool suggestion - that works, and has a nice ring to it; another to consider (just off the top of my head here) hmmm, "Curse Song Rager" or wait a sec, how about, "Dark Blade, the Drow Song Rager" (or something to this effect though, and again, Leafbow's be a cool suggestion for you, too
Qu. for you though - why 16 BBN and no Terrifying Rage? Wouldn't that be more useful maybe instead of say AS (you've a very nice AC w.o it, some nice saves too btw) or ... ? Just a thought ...
Curse ON! ~ Tyr
*edit* OOPS -- don't mind me re: tr -- just noted that this guy's for PvE, I gets it and makes total sense
Are you sure you are getting 74 ac with this build? I think you may be over-calculating. Doesn't armor enhancement count towards the +20 cap?
As I know you know, there are five types of armor in NWN: Armor, Shield, Deflection, Natural and Dodge. Only Natural and Dodge stack if you have that type of AC on more than one item or from another source (like bard song or divine shield, both of which add stackable dodge AC). This build has 24 Dodge AC:
5 dodge AC from his +5 gear (AC on boots is dodge AC), plus 4 dodge AC from haste, plus 1 dodge AC from Mage Armor, plus 5 Dodge AC from Bard Song, plus 9 Dodge AC from Divine Shield equals 24
The cap is 20, so only 5 of the dodge AC from Divine Shield will work. But if the build is subjected to Curse Song and loses, say, 5 AC, that redundancy of 4 AC will come in handy.
And no, Armor AC is not calculated as part of Dodge AC.
Ithacan
Edited By Ithacan on 04/25/07 22:32
Have you considered taking 16/7/17 instead?
It would be good for playability because you can get the BG summons and they are good for a low magic server.
Btw this build is awesome. It maxes str by spells and abilities. A firmidable foe in heat of battle on ow magic servers.
Quote: Posted 04/26/07 07:28 (GMT) -- Saints of Apocalypse
Have you considered taking 16/7/17 instead?
It would be good for playability because you can get the BG summons and they are good for a low magic server.
Btw this build is awesome. It maxes str by spells and abilities. A firmidable foe in heat of battle on ow magic servers.
Taking Bard to 20 is done primarily for lasting inspiration, which is more of a level 40 PvP thing, and the skill bump of the bard song (discipline, primarily). If you are leveling this primarily (you level a character and then go build another one) rather than building to fight at level 40, you could definitely consider taking BG to 7.
Thanks, SoA.
Hi Ithacan. Very nice build here. Looks like it'd be pretty tough in PvP. I have a question, though, about the Epic feat selection:
Specifically, the lvl 33 feat. Could you not omit the EER, and take ESF: Discipline at that level (as I assume you have more than 20 ranks in it by then), and then add either Terrifying Rage, or Thundering Rage? You'd meet the Greater Rage requirement for both (lvl 15 Barb) by lvl 36, and the Str requirement (25) for Thundering. I would think the either the extra damage on crits, or additional AB penalties from Terrifying would go nicely with Curse and such.
How about "Bard to the Bone"
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Why use a rapier when you could switch to a scimitar and use Keen Edge to gain a better crit range?
Quote: Posted 05/24/07 01:14 (GMT) -- Killapanda1
Why use a rapier when you could switch to a scimitar and use Keen Edge to gain a better crit range?
It's fairly common to find keened rapiers. Rapier of the High Road for example.
I would prefer to have a self-buffed Scimitar, with Keen and +5 GMW, so I would be able to find a Scimitar with some good elemental damage or attributes.
