Draconic Defender

This build tried to maximize charisma to focus on Divine Might and Divine Shield buffs. But still having a decent AC and AB and a fair selection of spells to choose from. Unbuffed it is fairly strong, Buffed up it is very powerful. It's only drawback is the buffs don't last long enough for extended fights. It is playable from level 1 to level 40, but will be difficult in the lower levels.

This build is different from the other builds in that Charisma is 34 to make Divine Might and Divine Shield last longer than other builds,and 20 levels of Paladin class are used. No other build uses this combo. This is what makes this build different from the others.


Paladin 20 / Sorcerer 10 / Red Dragon Disciple 10

Human
Lawful Good
PvM build. Playable from level 1 to level 40.

Stats at Start

Str 14
Dex 8
Con 10
Wis 14
Int 14
Chr 16

Stats at Level 40

Str 22
Dex 8
Con 12
Wis 14
Int 16
Chr 34

Level Feats Order
1. Paladin - Power Attack, Weapon Focus Greatsword
2. Paladin,
3. Paladin - Divine Might
4. Paladin, (17 Char)
5. Sorcerer
6. Red Dragon Disciple - Cleave
7. Red Dragon Disciple (16 Str)
8. Red Dragon Disciple (18 Char)
9. Paladin - Divine Shield
10. Red Dragon Disciple (18 Str)
11. Red Dragon Disciple
12. Red Dragon Disciple - Great Cleave (19 Char)
13. Red Dragon Disciple (12 Con)
14. Red Dragon Disciple
15. Paladin - Extra Turning
16. Paladin (20 Char)
17. Paladin
18. Paladin - Improve Critical Greatsword
19. Paladin
20. Paladin (21 Char)
21. Red Dragon Disciple - Epic Weapon Focus Greatsword
22. Sorcerer
23. Sorcerer
24. Sorcerer - Great Charisma I (23 Char)
25. Sorcerer
26. Sorcerer
27. Sorcerer - Great Charisma II (24 Char)
28. Sorcerer (25 Char)
29. Sorcerer (16 Int)
30. Paladin - Great Charisma III (26 char)
31. Paladin
32. Paladin (27 Char)
33. Paladin - Great Charisma IV (28 char)
34. Paladin
35. Paladin
36. Paladin - Great Charisma V (30 char)
37. Paladin
38. Paladin
(Tumble 20 crossclass)
39. Sorcerer - Great Charisma VI (31 Char)
(spellcraft 40)

40. Red Dragon Disciple (22 str, 34 Char)
(spot to 40, discipline 43, search 32, Listen 32 skill here)


**Knockdown, and Improved Knockdown can be substituted for 2 Great Charisma feats

Skills

Spot 40
Tumble 20
Discipline 43
Spellcraft 40
Search 32
Listen 32
Lore 8

Max Hit Points: 344

Saves
Fort 36, Reflex 26, Will 35 (+8 vs spells)
(With +12 Charisma) Fort 42 (50 vs spells), Reflex 31 (39 vs spells), Will 41 (49 vs spells)

Bab 27
AB 36/31/26/21 w normal Greatsword /buffed with +5 Greatsword and +12 str gear 47/42/37/32.. buffed with aid/ bless/ prayer/ divine favor/ true strike. 67/62/57/52. (My test module said 80 AB. but I think its inaccurate)

Damage 2-12 +9 (crit 17-20/x2), fully buffed prayer+1, divine favor +5, flame weapon 6-10, divine might +12 (+16 with aura of glory and eagles splendor), keen, Greater Magic Weapon, Holy Sword, Deafening Clang, Bull's Strength, 2-12+12(crit 15-20x)+25 buff damage.

AC 17 (naked) /with mundane full platemail AC 26/ with divine shield, mage armor spell, cat's grace, eagle splendor, aura of glory 48 AC/ with +5 Ac boots, fullplatemail, amulet, deflectio, mage armor spell,cat's grace,+6 charisma boosting divine shield 67 AC.

(Note. I took 8 RDD levels pre epic to get a higher Intelligence sooner and *more* "Skill Points".)

Edited By Grimnir77 on 05/26/07 12:55

WOW. Here from 2004 and you dont understand the FORMAT!

I ask a mod to arrest this post until it can be corrected.
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Quote: Posted 07/24/06 22:47:54 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

You should listen to avado

Take more Paladin pre-epic, at least 16. It will vastly increase your AB.

Also, why so many Great CHA's? 34 CHA does little for a level 10 Sorcerer, especially when you've no Great Smite feats. This is my first posting of a build..even though I've been a member of the guild since 2004. And what rules did I violate? I have no idea what violation you are refering to.

The build is meant for PvM..not PvP.

I have a 34 charisma to make Divine Might and Divine Shield last as long as possible.

I built and tested the build in a character creation module called, "Ded's Goodies".

It is playable from lvl 1 to lvl 40, but will be a bit difficult without good equipment at early levels. Duration of Divine Shield isn't really a huge factor, after you've attained about 20ish base CHA (imo).

But you NEED strength, if you expect to hit/damage things. Heh, Avado's right, re: you really do need to check the rules prior to posting (so as to conform to style, yes? even though it may be your first post ... that said, at least, you give us the naked stats b/f buffing,etc ... and that's cool (and well it should be -- so thanks for that, yes?

Ah, but (and not coming down on you here, ... you really do also need to link to all the other builds that use the same class combo, as there be 16 others here, inc. my own Dragon Slayer, and explain how yours is different (maybe not your fault, since some new posters seem not to follow that rule re other builds, but they need to, and again, just to help you out here (next time, you can link it up to the pulse yourself, yes? ...

(Paladin 29 / Sorcerer 1 / Red Dragon Disciple 10)
-- bwookie Click Here

Pally of Swash (Paladin 29 / Sorcerer 1 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- DaMouse404

Red Knight of Valor (Paladin 29 / Sorcerer 1 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- DarkWyvern

(Sorcerer 24 / Paladin 6 / Red Dragon Disciple 10)
-- Elor Yanlend Click Here

Wrath Of God (Paladin 21 / Red Dragon Disciple 10 / Sorcerer 9) Click Here
-- Faign

Holy Smiting Dragon (Paladin 29 / Red Dragon Disciple 10 / Sorcerer 1) Click Here
-- Ithacan

Divine Paladin (Paladin 29 / Sorcerer 1 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- lala_truthsayer

Born to be Wild (Paladin 29 / Red Dragon Disciple 10 / Sorcerer 1) Click Here
-- malibu-fr

The Transcending Knight (Paladin 10 / Sorcerer 20 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- Mick Dagger

Divine Meleer (Sorcerer 18 / Paladin 8 / Red Dragon Disciple 14) Click Here
-- Neverko (Posted by Stephen Hawking)

Battle-Sorcerer/ess (Sorcerer 27 / Paladin 3 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- Saxom

(Sorcerer 20 / Paladin 16 / Red Dragon Disciple 4)
-- tvs gene shalit Click Here

Dragon Slayer: Paladin-Sorcerer (Sorcerer 4 / Paladin 26 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- TyrTemplar

Seer Of Torm (Paladin 11 / Sorcerer 24 / Red Dragon Disciple 5) Click Here
-- xitooner

My Draconic Avenger (Sorcerer 29 / Paladin 1 / Red Dragon Disciple 10) Click Here
-- XyberKnight

Draconic Avenger V 2 (Paladin 1 / Red Dragon Disciple 10 / Sorcerer 29) Click Here
-- XyberKnight

Otherwise, .. heh heh ... love the pally/rdd I do ... I really do ... and agree w. what's been said above ... (ie more pally preep, and some str, otherwise, very nice, and congrats on yer first post). Cheers ~ Tyr
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You aren't missing too many stuff from the rules, avado overreacted a bit there, you don't specify PvM or PvP and Playable Range, originality of the build could be discussed as well, since there are so many builds with this class combination and even an exact class spread, so you should justify why your build is different from the rest and deserves to be here, that's about it for "rules", you actually give all the important information of class levels, abilities, stats, skills, saves and feats.
The other thing is the template, check at the bottom of the rules and you'll see Kail Pendragon posted an example template for how we generally like to watch the build spread, however, not using that template does not break any rules.

Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 05/22/07 22:53

PM me, Kail Pendragon or FinnesousPJ the edits to the build as per the link in the post above this one, and I'll reopen the thread.

Thank you. Thread unlocked.

The reason your test module shows a much higher AB than the actual combat-log/ dice rolls is because the game engine has a cap, but the sheet still continues to increse the numbers.
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You should definitely go shield and board, over greatsword. Look at it this way:

Greatsword = +9 STR damage (unmodded STR), 15-20 crit. range (Keen)
Scimitar = +6 STR damage, 12-20 crit. range (Keen), +8 AC (with a +5 tower shield).