I have spent most of my time in NWN learning how to make an uber build without the use of another person's build. I have been successful in making a near impossible build to kill, which i suspect would also be easy to play. So here it is.
PvM and PvP build. Playable 1 - 40.
Dwarf - Any Non-Lawful
Starting Stats (Finishing stats) : Str - 16 (24) Dex - 8 Con - 20 (38) Wis - 8 Int - 12 (14) Cha - 6
Increase constitution every time.
Here is the level guide. Numbers before are class levels, numbers after are character levels.
Skills: Focus on Discipline, Heal, Tumble, UMD, and get and get only 8 in lore.
Feats: 1-Armor Proficiency (Heavy) 3-Toughness 6-Weapon Focus* 9-Blind Fighting 12-Improved Critical* 15-Knockdown 18-Improved Knockdown 21-Epic Weapon Focus 24-Armor Skin - Great Constitution I 27-Great Constitution II 30-Great Constitution III 33-Great Constitution IV 36-Great Constitution V 39-Great Constitution VI
* - The choice here depends on if you want more damage, or more armor class. This build has a low AC, so you may wish to use a single handed weapon, and use a shield. If you want to dish out more damage (which this build can do) you go with a two handed weapon. Dual wielding is not recommended.
Naked Stats: AC - 22 AB - +36 HP - Maxed can easily exceed 1000, especially with rage.
With Equipment: Full plate +6 Tower shield +7 Ring of Protection +5 Boots of the Sun Soul +5 Amulet of Natural Armor +5
AC - 64 AB - +36
While raged your strength becomes 30, and your constitution becomes 44.
Pros:
Uber health.
Good AC if equipped right.
Good AB for a build focused on defense.
Rage.
Bard Song.
Use Magic Device.
Good self healing capabilities.
Fortitude Saves are excellent.
Dispel used against you will never harm you too bad.
Many immunities from RDD. (Immunity to sleep, paralysis, and fire.)
Decent DR (This is my reason for getting 23 levels in barbarian.)
Cons:
Spell Resistance is really bad. Look for SR bonus equipment. (Death magic is my biggest worry here, because most damage spells will only dent your HP.)
AB is slightly low.
Concealed, HIPS, or invisible opponents seem to frustrate this build. For magic based hiding use Mordenkainen's Disjunction from a scroll. You can use True Seeing against HIPS or invisible opponents.
In my opinion, this build has very few weaknesses. With heal scrolls or healing kits you can seem invincible against players, and go for hours in PvM without resting.
Any comments, suggestions, and tips are welcome, as this is my first build on this forum. Have fun tearing it up!
A couple of suggestions. 1. I would go with Barbarian 28/ Bard 2/ RDD 10. I'm not sure what you get by going with RDD 15. Barbarian 24 and 28 will net you two epic bonus feats. 2. If you get STR to 25 you can pick up Mighty Rage as one of the Barbarian bonus feats. +8 to STR and CON while raging. 3. I would drop some of the Great CONs and pick up the 3 Epic Damage Reduction Feats. Which are great to have with so many HP's. I think that would give you DR 15/-. Just some suggestions to think about. Nice build.
Oh, one more thing. If you get Mighty Rage you can activate it first and then activate Greater Rage and they STACK with each other. Not sure if you knew that or not.
I would delay Bard and RDD till epic, to maximize BAB. Also, do as Galab said - go 28 Barb, 10 RDD. You'll trade one AC for one epic bonus feat, 2/- DR (or something like that) and some HPs.
Also, you may want to check up on your formatting, such as listing saves, skills (the exact number), and maxed HP without rage or gear.
Edited By mantis3 on 07/04/07 23:57
mantis, i appreciate the attempt, but you should look at using our format that we have ALL been using for the past 2 years or so. Look at any of the recent builds if you arent sure. It makes it easier for new folks to look at, and us old, cynical folks to take seriously!
Esp when you say near impossible to kill and use 15 rdd lvls.. And, im sure a heavy weapon master with dev crit OR a high crit range weapon (scrim or rapier) will be able to take you down.. and lets not even look at those scythe weildin wms.. oh my (no imm to crit!) Just a thought
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Edited By avado on 07/05/07 05:05
I like this idea, as I like bard/RDD everything dare I admit ... but an uber build? Um, .... er ....
As noted above, AB 36 is way way too low (you're simply not going to hit anything); while HPs are nice, I agree w. Avado (don't believe in HPs for the sake of Hps); honestly, more grt. str. and/or EDR would do you far better; also, why 15 RDD? 10 is the number you want. tossing the rest into barb. is great thinking (and, unless you're going bard-heavy, which you're not, then you'll also want to really consider running Barb. pre-ep which is also good thinkin' (BAB = AB).
also, as to format, in addition, you need to list all similar builds from the guild and explain how yours is different from what's come b/f (not coming down on you as you're new, and am happy to help you out this time, but next time, you can do this yourself, 'kay? (also, some really great ideas in these builds, all community vetted, and which you'll want to read through ... and see what 28 barb/2 bard/10 rdd gets ya --
Similar Builds (Note: list not exhaustive):
Raging Skald (Barb 22 / Bard 8 / RDD 10), Cinnabar Din Click Here
Dragon Rider (the "Mighty Blade"), (Barbarian 28, RDD 10, Bard 2), TyrTemplar Click Here
Oh, and here's something else that you might find helpful (I know that I do http://www.nwnwiki.org
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Edited By TyrTemplar on 07/05/07 06:23
Quote: Posted 07/05/07 05:03 (GMT) -- avado
mantis, i appreciate the attempt, but you should look at using our format that we have ALL been using for the past 2 years or so.
This isn't my build.
Thanks for the input so far, here is a bit better version. Although Dev. Crit. is still a large problem, and ab still is mediocre, it is a great improvement on the original.
I also found that the mighty rages and greater rages do not stack, I tested it in the Novice To Epic Character Builder and found that I just got the +8 on Strength and Constitution instead of the +12 it would have been stacked. It still provides excellent bonuses by its self though.
This version has lower health but better damage reduction, which, in the long run will help a lot.
So here it is.
barbarian 28/bard 2/ rdd 10
This time I took barbarian pre-epic, and took bard at level 20 so I could get RDD as quickly as possible.
Stats. Before, (after)
Str 16 (25) [Increase at level 4] Dex 8 Con 20 (34) [Increase at every level that is not level 4] Int 12 (14) Wis 8 Cha 6
Level Up Guide: (Before is character level, After are class levels)
1-Armor Proficiency (Heavy) 3-Toughness 6-Weapon Focus 9-Blind Fighting 12-Improved Critical 15-Knockdown 18-Your Choice (I took Called Shot) 21-Epic DR I 24-Epic DR II 27-Epic DR III 30-Epic Weapon Focus 33-Great Constitution I 35-Mighty Rage 36-Great Constitution 39-Great Con III, Armor Skin
Stat increases. 4 +1 STR 8 +1 CON 12 +1 CON 16 +1 CON 20 +1 CON 22 +2 STR 24 +2 STR, +1 CON 27 +2 CON 28 +1 CON 29 +2 INT 30 STR +4, CHA +2 32 +1 CON 33 +1 CON 36 +1 CON 39 +1 CON 40 +1 CON
Naked Stats AC 23 AB +36/+31/+26/+21 (I found this to be variably higher when wielding the weapon you chose for weapons focuses) Maxed HP - 969 Fortitude-33 Reflex-17 Will-17
Pros: A lot of health. Excellent Fortitude DR of 11/- Use Magic Device Self Healing Capabilities
Cons: Devastating Critical. Low AC Low AB Magic, fortitude and reflex save magic will most likely result in death.
I guess your right, not uber. It has good defensive capabilities, with scrolls, and self healing.
I believe that there are no other builds with the same class combo that have the same focus, because the defense is based on Constitution and raising HP.
I will thank all of you again for your input, thank you.
Oh, another con that I forgot to post, XP penalty.
Quote: Posted 07/05/07 08:44 (GMT) -- mantis3
Quote: Posted 07/05/07 05:03 (GMT) -- avado
mantis, i appreciate the attempt, but you should look at using our format that we have ALL been using for the past 2 years or so.
This isn't my build.
OMG! My bad. Sorry bout that it was late when i posted.
Back to the original idea of the oc, yes you have high HP. SO what? Your ab will be adequate at best. 25 str? Why stop at 25? Oh, cuz you want a high hp build! Makes no sense.
To understand where I am coming from, I have a char on a pw that uses the PRC mod. At lv 40 he will have 60 str (gr strenth 10 + 12 str from itms - yes you read it right!) His dc for dev crit will be 55. That means that your "uber" 20000000 hp char will have to roll 12-20 4 times per round vs 55 (a fort save). Not too uber to me. I know I am comparing apples and oranges (prc to non) but my point is, when you said he is unbeatable, really? My dc55 critter can easily be negated by 10 pm lvls.. NOW, 200000 hp with that type of char BECOMES unbeatable. The only thing with that is, HOW do you kill yourself??? Sure, no one can kill you, but so what... A rat could be infront of you and you couldnt kill it neither...
Oh, and IF you are goint to post here, please follow the format that ALL of us use. It is only POLITE to do so. _________________
Thanks for the input so far, here is a bit better version. Although Dev. Crit. is still a large problem, and ab still is mediocre, it is a great improvement on the original.
I also found that the mighty rages and greater rages do not stack, I tested it in the Novice To Epic Character Builder and found that I just got the +8 on Strength and Constitution instead of the +12 it would have been stacked. It still provides excellent bonuses by its self though.
They do stack. You must activate Mighty Rage first, IIRC. If not, then it's the other way around, but they do stack. In your test, did you have any STR and CON enhancing gear on? _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
Quote: Posted 07/04/07 23:39 (GMT) -- galelabriel
2. If you get STR to 25 you can pick up Mighty Rage as one of the Barbarian bonus feats.
Okay, I'm calling myself out here. The above statement is FALSE. Thundering Rage requires STR 25. Mighty Rage requires 21 levels Barbarian, 21 STR and 21 CON. Sorry.
Quote: Posted 07/05/07 17:01 (GMT) -- Loki122
Oh, another con that I forgot to post, XP penalty.
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A couple of suggestions. 1. I would go with Barbarian 28/ Bard 2/ RDD 10. I'm not sure what you get by going with RDD 15. Barbarian 24 and 28 will net you two epic bonus feats. 2. If you get STR to 25 you can pick up Mighty Rage as one of the Barbarian bonus feats. +8 to STR and CON while raging. 3. I would drop some of the Great CONs and pick up the 3 Epic Damage Reduction Feats. Which are great to have with so many HP's. I think that would give you DR 15/-. Just some suggestions to think about. Nice build.
Oh, one more thing. If you get Mighty Rage you can activate it first and then activate Greater Rage and they STACK with each other. Not sure if you knew that or not.
I would delay Bard and RDD till epic, to maximize BAB. Also, do as Galab said - go 28 Barb, 10 RDD. You'll trade one AC for one epic bonus feat, 2/- DR (or something like that) and some HPs.
http://www.nwnwiki.org 
Oh, another con that I forgot to post, XP penalty. 
