Here's a party support Bard I ran on a few servers. Just as a note do NOT attempt to level this thing alone unless you enjoy exceedingly difficult solo characters.
You'll need to find a way to raise your perform by 33 points, 27 if you can get +12 charisma from gear/buffs in order to get the full lvl 30 Bard Song which needless to say..is very worth the effort as it will give 48 health, 7 ac, and +19 to all skills which is also -7 AC, 48 dmg, and -18 to all skills with Curse Song, and against anything with high AC you can come out of stealth long enough to hit him with a -6 AC taunt then restealth
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 04/29/09 17:58
Forgot to mention you can replace Skill Focus Perform for Still Spell if you intend to use a shield, personally I didn't use one opting instead for dual wielding some +hide/move silently weapons
I love this particular build
Except I usually put most point increases into CON and take 3 BG levels and 2 SD levels. This way I get evasion.
Yeah I just thought it'ld be interesting to make a full charisma bard at the time..I get bored easily and making weird builds like this one lol..or a druid/wm/shifter that focuses on epic Drow form, or just refining existing builds it just amuses me for some reason
Actually going full CON and taking AutoStill II makes him quite easy to level. You're a decent caster (well, you've got Grease and Ice Storm.. what more do you need?) as well as Wounding Whispers which works well in conjunction with having tons of HP.
True enough it's just generally easier to get con from gear/buffs then it is to get perform and 100 perform is a rather high number to get to with low charisma especially if you can't craft your own gear after all even epic gloves of the minstrel are only +30 perform
Edited By Revenant Mattlov on 02/27/09 10:45
Quote: Posted 02/27/09 10:36 (GMT) -- Bertuzzi
Actually going full CON and taking AutoStill II makes him quite easy to level. You're a decent caster (well, you've got Grease and Ice Storm.. what more do you need?) as well as Wounding Whispers which works well in conjunction with having tons of HP.
In theory, yes, but Bards can't qualify for AutoStill feats without 9th level casting power.
However, Bertuzzi is right that you should at least go for SD2 and grab Evasion. The Diminishing Returns kicks on an Bard after Level 20, so I think you could afford to drop Bard to around Level 32. You'll lose a Bonus feat...but seriously, losing an Epic Skill Focus feat for this kind of build isn't going to hurt him in the slightest. Especially since he gains 1.5 Epic Spell Focus feats across the board every time he opens his mouth.
Oh, and again with no Divine Might? With that 32 Charisma, what are you waiting for? Satan? _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
01: Bard(1): Toughness, Curse Song 02: Bard(2) 03: Bard(3): Dodge 04: Bard(4): CHA+1 05: Bard(5) 06: Bard(6): Mobility 07: Bard(7) 08: Bard(8): CHA+1 09: Bard(9): Power Attack 10: Bard(10) 11: Bard(11) 12: Bard(12): CHA+1, Cleave 13: Blackguard(1) 14: Blackguard(2): {Smite Good} 15: Blackguard(3): Divine Shield 16: Blackguard(4): CHA+1 17: Bard(13) 18: Bard(14): Skill Focus: Perform 19: Bard(15) 20: Bard(16): CHA+1 21: Shadowdancer(1): Armor Skin, {Hide in Plain Sight} 22: Bard(17) 23: Bard(18) 24: Bard(19): CHA+1, Great Charisma I 25: Bard(20) 26: Bard(21) 27: Bard(22): Great Charisma II 28: Bard(23): CHA+1, Lasting Inspiration 29: Bard(24) 30: Bard(25): Great Charisma III 31: Bard(26): Epic Skill Focus: Perform 32: Bard(27): CHA+1 33: Bard(28): Great Charisma IV 34: Bard(29): Epic Skill Focus: Hide 35: Bard(30) 36: Bard(31): CHA+1, Great Charisma V 37: Bard(32): Epic Skill Focus: Move Silently 38: Bard(33) 39: Bard(34): Great Charisma VI 40: Bard(35): CHA+1, Epic Skill Focus: Taunt
This is a nice idea, but, despite your warning, why do it? YOu have 0 ab and 0 damage. Oh sure, you can sing, BUT you cant sing to the full potential (without items).
Again, just cuz this is a unique idea, doesnt mean it should be done. You loose way too much to make a character that is very pretty, but brings nothing to the party. _________________
Skill Focus: Perform could be replaced with Divine might just switch a BG level around if you want it. As for why make it the bard song, curse song and taunt should be enough of a justification in any party and if needed Taunt can be switched out for Listen thereby becoming the party stealth detector as well. As for items..I've decided I'm not going to make a melee cause I have to get like..armor and swords and stuff, I'm also not gonna make a caster cause then I'ld have to get robes and items to boost my casting stat, also not gonna make a archer..I'ld need a bow I can keep going but I think my point is clear enough: Nothing can reach it's fullest potential without items
As a note I wouldn't consider a party wide +7 AC +19 skills and a +7 AB boost through curse song that isn't included in the +20 AB cap as a character that brings nothing to the party, not to mention the fact that you can still act as a buffer through things like GMW, Keen Edge, Imp Invis and all the stat buffs except endurance
Edited By Revenant Mattlov on 02/27/09 20:40
Thing is, you can have a hard core, awe inspiring, super charged bard song, and not suck at everything else.
Sure but I built this bard for its song and survivability, hence it focuses on its song and survivability also something to note I've never made all purpose builds there's plenty of those around, I focus on 1-2 things and make the build excel at it just how I am so..if you want jack of all trades builds don't look at mine
Quote: Posted 02/28/09 19:23 (GMT) -- onion eater
Thing is, you can have a hard core, awe inspiring, super charged bard song, and not suck at everything else.
But the point of this particular build is a pure support/buffer bard.
You run around with healing kits, cast Improve Invis and dispel stuff (works especially well if Greater Dispel has +15 limit removed to balance out caster clerics/druids compared to arcane casters). You also make sure the enemy is chugging restoration potions to get rid of curse song instead of whacking at your teammates. And you have enough taunt to give even a sorcerer 30% spell failure for 5 rounds.
Obviously only works in team PvM/PvP situations where you actually have a decent team that isn't out to frag (or loot) with little regard to everything else.
Exactly
Oh, forgot to mention Displacement. In a party with someone to cast Invis Purge, the enemy won't be concealed and you will be
Yeah Displacement is a very overlooked spell kind of a shame really it's saved me more times then I can count especially since it doesn't have to be stilled not to mention a 1d6 + 35 WW which for the most part is never touched as a damage shield for server changes lol
