This char I made thinking about maximize ab using divine favor and divine wrath plus devastating critical. Isn´t overpower, but is good to break high AC opponent boss.
HIGH AB PALADIN - PALADIN 14 / Champion of Torm 25 / SORCERER 1 Human, lawful good PvM, PvP playable 1-40
BAB: 30 AB (max, naked): 44 (mundane scimitar) AC (naked/mundane armor & shield only): 9/20 AB with divine favor, bless, aid and divine wrath: 61 (add +6 if you taunt the opponent and + 20 from true strike...you´ll have just 70 in the first hit, 76 with capped Strength)
SKILLS Concentration 43(44), Discipline 43(53), Taunt 43(47) (you can use the concentration points in tumble for +4 ac)
LEVELING GUIDE 01: Paladin(1): Luck of Heroes, Weapon Focus: Scimitar 02: Paladin(2): 03: Paladin(3): power attack 04: Paladin(4): STR+1, (STR=17) 05: Paladin(5) 06: Paladin(6): Extra Smiting 07: Paladin(7) 08: Paladin(8): STR+1, (STR=18) 09: Paladin(9): Divine Might 10: Paladin(10) 11: Paladin(11) 12: Paladin(12): STR+1, Divine Shield, (STR=19) 13: Paladin(13) 14: Champion of Torm(1) 15: Champion of Torm(2): Knockdown, Cleave 16: Champion of Torm(3): STR+1, (STR=20) 17: Champion of Torm(4): Great Cleave 18: Champion of Torm(5): Toughness 19: Champion of Torm(6): Improved Critical: Scimitar 20: Champion of Torm(7): STR+1, (STR=21) 21: Champion of Torm(8): Great StrI, Epic Prow, (STR=22) 22: Champion of Torm(9) 23: Champion of Torm(10): Epic Weapon Focus: Scimitar 24: Champion of Torm(11): STR+1, Great StrII, (STR=24) 25: Champion of Torm(12) 26: Champion of Torm(13) 27: Champion of Torm(14): Great StrIII, Over Crit Scimitar, (STR=25) 28: Champion of Torm(15): STR+1, (STR=26) 29: Champion of Torm(16) 30: Champion of Torm(17): Great Strength IV, (STR=27) 31: Champion of Torm(18): Devastating Critical: Scimitar 32: Champion of Torm(19): STR+1, (STR=28) 33: Champion of Torm(20): Great Strength V, (STR=29) 34: Champion of Torm(21) 35: Champion of Torm(22): Great Wisdom I, (WIS=13) 36: Champion of Torm(23): CHA+1, Great Strength VI, (STR=30), (CHA=17) 37: Champion of Torm(24) 38: Champion of Torm(25) 39: Sorcerer(1): Great Wisdom II, (WIS=14) 40: Paladin(14): CHA+1, (CHA=18)
** The weak point of this char is the low charisma, then the bonus due to divine wrath is so short...with items that up 12 in charisma this problem partially solved.
BAB: 30 AB (max, naked): 44 (mundane scimitar) AC (naked/mundane armor & shield only): 9/20 AB with divine favor, bless, aid and divine wrath: 61 (add +6 if you taunt the opponent and + 20 from true strike...you´ll have just 87 in the first hit)
Nope. The bonus gotten from True Strike won't stack with any other sources of AB gain, except increased STR and debuffs like Taunt and Cursed Song. As such, your max AB will be 64, 70 if you Taunt first. _________________ People who say that I am arrogant are mistaken. Arrogance is a flaw; I am flawless.
You are right gammata, I put it ´cause in some servers this is changed, and the True Strike bonus stack.
Is the sorcerer level just for boss fights PvM? I think you can find better use of the last class. If you up the paladin by just one level you'll have 1 higher GWM and Divine Favor. And the paladin has good CHA buffs too, so if you time those in with your one use of Divine Wrath you'll have CHA 30, no worries.
And test it, I might be confused by playing NwN2, but didn't they add Arcane failure to Truestrike in the last patch? Not sure, test it.
*edit* Smite stacks with Truestrike btw, actually with everything. You might end up with a boring boss fight. _________________ Dragonlance ROH is back, better than before! and I spend a little time here WoG
Edited By Grimnir77 on 04/27/09 06:28
I tested grimmir, and true strike don´t have pennalties due to armor. The sorcerer level is just for true strike, ´cause is usefull in the server I play (stack with everything), but this level of sorcerer can be changed for one level of paladin without problems, the best choice if you´ll play in a place where true strike doesn´t stack.
Quote: Posted 04/27/09 06:25 (GMT) -- Grimnir77
*edit* Smite stacks with Truestrike btw, actually with everything. You might end up with a boring boss fight.
Right, Smite can stack on top of Truestrike. The problem you're having Grimnir, may be in the character's title itself, "High AB Paladin," which is something of a misnomer, since he really doesn't get an AB higher than most other Paladin types. Also, not getting to Paladin 15 actually keeps him from getting a maximum Divine Favor, which was, I think, one of the thrusts of the build.
What will stack, and also makes Truestrike supefluous, is Divine Wrath, Divine Favor and GMW. Assuming he had Paladin 15, when he turned on Wrath he could gain an instant +21 to AB. Of course he would cap at +20, and then add more by using a Smite. But with a just a raw Charisma of 18, his Smite, while good, is still well below the "High-AB" smiting Paladins.
Still, nice work, though as others said, the 1 Sorcerer is worth less than Paladin15. _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
You are right gammata, I put it ´cause in some servers this is changed, and the True Strike bonus stack.
I find this really amusing. For example, assume this were a cleric instead of monk. Now you have +20 rather easily +20 True strike, or +40 to AB! LMAO.
HOw on earth would you balance a server for this? ANswer: you cant. It is so rare that true strike would be cast by a cleric, who would ever plan for it.
Regardless, i was disappointed in the title. If i recall correctly, someone made a high ab pal with wm a while ago which did more than this (had higher charisma too). I'm just not a fan of server builds. How can you mess up a bab30 build? _________________
Quote: by avado I find this really amusing. For example, assume this were a cleric instead of monk. Now you have +20 rather easily +20 True strike, or +40 to AB! LMAO.
Let's assume this being a monk in the first place.
Quote: by thiagocorrea You are right gammata, I put it ´cause in some servers this is changed, and the True Strike bonus stack.
No, you didn't get it. It's not that True Strike does not stack with other types of AB bonuses, rather the game caps bonus AB at +20, and since True Strike gives +20, there's no possibility of it stacking. The Character Sheet says it stacks, but it's a lie, the Character Sheet shows the "potential" AB without the cap. I've never seen any server where they "broke the game rules" and allow stacking like that, but who knows, if it happens I might have to eat my words. _________________ "My name is Thaxll'ssyllia, but you simians may refer to me merely as "Sir", if you prefer a less... syllable intensive workout."
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The Character Sheet says it stacks, but it's a lie, the Character Sheet shows the "potential" AB without the cap. I've never seen any server where they "broke the game rules" and allow stacking like that, but who knows, if it happens I might have to eat my words.
Perhaps you are right, ´cause I tested my char against one char with 89 ac, and with all buffs and equipments my ab were 72 (without true), and even with true activated (92 ab) I missed a lot of hits...
44 + 6 = 50 +20 = 70 me loves the math
So please, why is 1 sorc >>> 15 paladin?
Ah, the sheet, now why didn't I think of that. Don't trust it!
And take it easy guys.
As an alternative to Pal15/CoT25, have you considered easing down on the one use of Divine Wrath? Paladin26/CoT14 or Pally 29/CoT10/Whatever1 also. It gimps the Divine Wrath seriously, but it should be considered, I think. _________________ Dragonlance ROH is back, better than before! and I spend a little time here WoG
Quote: Posted 04/28/09 04:06 (GMT) -- avado So please, why is 1 sorc >>> 15 paladin?
If you for any obscure reason want to cast from arcane scrolls/wands in a build without access to UMD.
But of course, the focus here is high AB and the stacking is capped at 20. And Pal 15 gives +5 to GMW and DF. Still access to TS will give more high AB attacks per day.
Personally I've always been more fond of 16/22/2 Pally/Cot/Rog comparable AB (high 60s without Wrath 72ish with Wrath) amazing saves + evasion/tumble/UMD & IKD from the higher int to support more skills as well as Holy Sword from higher Pally <3
My 2 cents... I was obsessed with making a 30 Cot and it worked out rather well, higher ab than what is stated here. Based on my logs, I got anywhere from 71-74 AB, depending on which version I was using, (I made 5 of them on my fav-but-now-extinct server) using a +7 greatsword.
It was truly an awesome build
pal 9 COT 30 sorc 1
The way I used it, the tru strikes were for after wrath expired (assuming an enemy was still standing) to keep me from having a one and done attack.
Saves were off the charts and very nice discipline. It could pretty much KD anything, and if it KD'd you, it was over.
