Can a single pc get 50% concealment AND at least 9/- damage reduction?
Monks get both as bonus feats, but I am not sure you could get both the 21 con and 30 dex necessary.
Quote: Posted 04/29/04 21:08:28 (GMT) -- Darby
Can a single pc get 50% concealment AND at least 9/- damage reduction?
Monks get both as bonus feats, but I am not sure you could get both the 21 con and 30 dex necessary.
I believe if you took Dwarven Defender, you could get the damage reduction that you want. I am not sure about that though, I never made any build that had Dwarven Defender class.
Anuis
Defender lvl 10 give 6/-. Defender gets more reduction every 4 levels after 10, so a 14 defender has your 9/-. In order to get the Damage Reduction feats you need to have 21 con. Not too hard, but may be enough to make it hard to get all 50% of your conceal (but you need 30 dex, 30 hide, 30 tumble I believe). Maybe a fighter/DD/Rogue. 4/11/25? Or even a straight DD/Rogue? Fighter levels might help getting the feats. Would take a little longer to get the +7 ab, but you will get it eventually. Even 30 or 40% conceal would be worth it. If you could throw in Epic Dodge, you would be set. Tough build, but sounds like you should be able to get atleast some of what you want.
I currently have a fighter/DD/WM (9/11/7) and will maximize DR. He will have 21/- base I believe if I calculated it right. Lower AC, good BAB since they are all fighter based, and a tough tank with a few other DR and soak items.
Defender lvl 10 give 6/-. Defender gets more reduction every 4 levels after 10, so a 14 defender has your 9/-. In order to get the Damage Reduction feats you need to have 21 con. Not too hard, but may be enough to make it hard to get all 50% of your conceal (but you need 30 dex, 30 hide, 30 tumble I believe). Maybe a fighter/DD/Rogue. 4/11/25? Or even a straight DD/Rogue? Fighter levels might help getting the feats. Would take a little longer to get the +7 ab, but you will get it eventually. Even 30 or 40% conceal would be worth it. If you could throw in Epic Dodge, you would be set. Tough build, but sounds like you should be able to get atleast some of what you want.
I currently have a fighter/DD/WM (9/11/7) and will maximize DR. He will have 21/- base I believe if I calculated it right. Lower AC, good BAB since they are all fighter based, and a tough tank with a few other DR and soak items.
I believe if you took certain amount of monk levels, you can get 50% concealment feat for free. It would work if you are doing two classes build instead of three classes build. You have to get certain amount of monk levels before you get 50% concealment feat for free.
The advantage that I see with this type of build, monk/DD is that you get high AC, HP, damage reduction and ability to move fast as DM and hide whenever you need to.
Anuis
I know self concealment is a bonus feat for monks that you can choose . .though I still think you need the reqs for it.
Haven't had a chance to find a build or do the math to see if I can get 21 con and 30 dex/tumble on the same pc soon enough
think she's talking about empty body, which doesn't last long enough and is dispellable.
~ lock _________________ "Life builds you up just to tear you down." - 3rd Strike
hi darby not sure if these will help. but 2 of the 3 builds does have 50% concealment. Click Here 2nd post by disillusioned reincarnation for the other 2 go to the build,s index. author "kamiryn" MASTER OF DEFENSE MONK OF THE DEFENSE ORDER hope they help..
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Edited By griphook on 05/01/04 18:20
thanks fellas. Yeah I found empty body. Too bad its dispellable.
You can get Self Concealment, but it will take more DEX(total of 30), 30 ranks in Hide and Tumble, and improved invasion feat. This type is not dispellable, unlike the Empty Body, but it will change the way the build works.
But the downside of this feat, you will have to take it five time if you want to get 50% concealment I think. So you lose out four other useful feats unless you took fighter class(two feats every three levels I think in pre-epic levels).
Anuis
FYI, fighter gets one feat every even level and one at lvl one totaling 11 feats at level 20.
F*CK. Had a build made, but when I went to post it I for some reason was logged out and lost it all. Damnit.
Anyway it was a 16/19/5 rogue/dd/harper
39 base ac 12/- dmg red 50% conceal improved evasion 474 hp maxed hide/move silent 8d6 sneak 42/37/32/27 15-20 crit range
ending stats 14 str 34 dex 16 con 10 int 8 wis 6 char
F*CK. Had a build made, but when I went to post it I for some reason was logged out and lost it all. Damnit.
It is possible that you were away from the computer long enough that it automatically logged you off for security reasons(so no one can change your password or do something that is out of your character of posting, etc).
Same when you take too long typing something before you posted it.
Those are the only reasons that I can think of why you were logged out. This have had occured to me several times.
Anuis
i think it,s a.. 30 min. time limit on posting ...type faster ( i,m a fine one to talk )
Edited By griphook on 05/13/04 00:52
Quote: Posted 05/13/04 00:30:23 (GMT) -- griphook
i think it,s a.. 30 min. time limit on posting ...type faster ( i,m a fine one to talk )
Well I had started to reply to the post on a possible build, then I wasn't sure on whether I could choose self conceal for rogue bonus feats, so I made a char to test it. Then I ended up making and remaking chars until I got it right. It was well over 30 minutes. Then I hit post, it asks for password and I lose my 45 minutes of work.
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Try this one , drop the last 5 levels and take DD/DD/SD/DD/DD instead.
You can choose to have SC5 and DR 9/- or SC4 DR 9- with epic weapon focus.
Bonus you get is epic dodge. if you can live without that you can get SC5 , Epic weapon specialisation and good bitmore DR. Epic dodge is probably more worth it.
