Hey guys...I'm looking for a good archer build that can do reasonable damage, some stealth, and maybe some good epic spells (warding and mage armor). Any possible way?
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Quote: Posted 06/29/04 20:48:04 (GMT) -- legolas2358

Hey guys...I'm looking for a good archer build that can do reasonable damage, some stealth, and maybe some good epic spells (warding and mage armor). Any possible way?

Yes. You can try this:

Race: Elf
First Class: Wizard
Second Class: Arcane Archer
Third Class: Either Shadowdancer or Rogue

The epic spells depends on your Spellcraft, so get it high as possible and you will be able to get warding and mage armor before you hit level 40.

Then since you are taking SD or Rogue, you can get pretty good stealth. But you might want to take rogue instead, they give you 8 skill points every time you take level in rogue. And you don't have to meet any requirements if you took rogue instead of SD. But you will lose free feats from not taking SD. SD gives you free Uncanny Dodge III when you take 10 levels in SD.

But this is one of the combination. There are many other combinations that are better than this and some less.

Anuis Sorry Anuis but ya gotta be able to cast lvl 9 spells to get epic spells

Here is the archer that's been kickin all yer butts on the epic build server. It high high ab, high ac, epic spells, and is immune to crit.
To make it sneaky, just start the dex at 16, get 14 int and get 40 hide, 40 move silently instead of umd. Though I think umd and the extra dex is better than sneaky if ya ask me. You will end up with 1 less ab, 1 less ac and have an extra epic feat for whatever ya want, possibly an epic spell IF you arrange it right.

Bard 5/ PM 16/AA 19

Elf
str 10
dex 20
con 12
int 10
wis 8
chr 12

4 bard
6 PM
10 AA

6 AA
10 PM
3 AA
1 Bard

1 Point blank shot
3 Weapon focus longbow
6 Rapid shot
9 Toughness
12 imp crit longbow
15 dodge
18 Called Shot
21 Ep WF Long
24 Armor Skin, Gr Dex 1
27 Gr Dex 2
30 Gr Dex 3
33 Gr Dex 4, Ep Energy Res Fire
36 EP MA, Ep Warding
38 Gr Dex 5
39 Gr Dex 6

str 10
dex 36
con 12
int 10
wis 8
chr 12

Skills

Tumble - 40
Perform - 9
UMD - 43
Spellcraft - 40

ab - 53
ac - 68 Nice Skeletal archer. But I have a question about the Epic Warding....How long will it last, 5 rounds?

Zhoreb Very nice, evo! Ty
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"Computers are like air conditioners; They don't work when you open windows" Epic mage armor lasts quit a bit of time, I think it's hours/level.

Epic spells durations are based on the Class they gain it from. 16 PM = level 16, so that is how long it'll last. On a level 16 Pm it's like 15 RL minutes I think. It's a while.

I'll post my Elven Archer with Divine Guidance:
It'll hurt about anything, even constructs, which allows for called shots even into contructs. Good AB, Decent AC with buff's and average gear +3 to +5 (40's). Average damage spelled up in the 40's per shot.

*edit agh this pasted horrible,all spacing reduced to 1, removing Hp gains for cleanup)

Elf Classes Bard BG AA 10/3/27
Stats Mod d6 d10 d8 Final stat/mod
Str: 14 2 14 2
Dex: 16 3 28 9
Con: 10 0 10 0
Int: 10 1 10 0
Wis: 8 -1 8 -1
Cha 16 3 24 7
LevelUp Stat Add 1st Feat / 2nd Feat/Bonus Feat HP Skills
Level:
1 Bard Point Blank Shot/P Attack
2 Bard
3 Bard WF Longbow
4 Bard +1 Dex
5 Bard
6 Bard Cleave
7 Bard
8 Bard +1 Dex
9 BG Rapid Shot
10 BG
11 AA
12 AA +1 Dex Called Shot
13 AA
14 AA
15 AA Blindfighting
16 AA +1 Dex
17 AA
18 BG Divine Might 19 AA
20 AA +1 Cha
21 AA Great Cha I
22 AA
23 AA
24 AA +1 Cha Great Cha II
25 AA Great Dex I
26 AA
27 AA Great Dex II
28 AA +1 Dex
29 AA Great Dex III
30 AA Great Dex IV
31 AA
32 AA +1 Cha
33 AA Great Cha III/Epic WF longbow
34 AA
35 AA
36 AA +1 cha Great Cha IV
37 AA Great Dex V
38 Bard
39 Bard or BG* Armor Skin (or other feat) 40 AA +1 Dex
At level 39 you can take a 4th BG if you want and get Divine Shield.
Upside is increased AC, with max Cha gear it'll last 12 rounds w/+12 AC.
Downside is no level 4 Bard spells for Improved invis and durations.
I choose bard myself. Max Tumble, some umd for gear, Max Discipline if you want (it helps).

Called Shot essential, Slow down the enemy. The Divine Damage WILL punch over Epic Warding, and nail the casters. Called Shot the legs when ya do it and you should be able to hurt them plus if ya crit the min damage is in the high 90's and average over 100.

Level 40 hp = 308 (unbuff'd)
@20 18/13/8/3
Epic 28/23/18/13
Epic WF +WF 31/26/21/16
Dex Added 40/35/30/25
Enchant XIV 55/50/45/40
Max dex from gear 61/56/51/46
Bard song 63/62/57/52

Also Dark blessing adds the cha modifier to saves, Reflex get's over 50 with bard song, and others are mid 30's.

Damage = 1d8 +14 (arrows)
+7 Divine Might (max cha = +13)
=base of 1d8+14, +7 magical (max +13), +2 bard song with a Longbow no mighty or elemental arrows

Min damage is 24-32 No Gear. Cannot complain a lot that is comparable to Melee, and you can get 5 attacks.

This build is strong PvP with Moderate Magic server. With a +3 Attack +5 Mighty bow, +1d10 Massive crits, It held it's own last night verses some other good Melee builds, will test it verse Casters later, and that is with a 348hp, and buff's only from self.

Edited By Zyth on 06/30/04 17:30

Quote: Posted 06/30/04 05:11:29 (GMT) -- evo_dragon


Here is the archer that's been kickin all yer butts on the epic build server. It high high ab, high ac, epic spells, and is immune to crit.

What's this Epic Build server?
Quote: Posted 08/20/04 19:46:01 (GMT) -- yrtsns

Quote: Posted 06/30/04 05:11:29 (GMT) -- evo_dragon


Here is the archer that's been kickin all yer butts on the epic build server. It high high ab, high ac, epic spells, and is immune to crit.

What's this Epic Build server?

I don't believe it is up there anymore... legolas2358 probably took it off since no one has been using it. Plus, he has not been active since 5th of Aug I think.

I might have to look for someone else who would like to host the Epic Build module.

Do anyone want to host it?

Anuis

Edited By Anuis on 08/20/04 20:27

Quote: Posted 07/27/04 12:32:45 (GMT) -- syrath1001

Elf
Chaotic Good
STR 14
DEX 18(32)
CON 10
WIS 8
INT 12
CHA 14

1 Bard Point Blank Shot
2 Bard
3 Bard Dodge
4 Bard
5 Bard
6 Bard Mobility
7 Bard
8 Shadowdancer
9 Shadowdancer Weapon Focus (longbow)
10 Arcane Archer
11 Arcane Archer
12 Arcane Archer Rapid Shot
13 Arcane Archer
14 Arcane Archer
15 Arcane Archer Imrpoved Critical
16 Arcane Archer
17 Arcane Archer
18 Arcane Archer Improved Initiative
19 Arcane Archer
20 Shadowdancer
21 Shadowdancer Great DEX 1
22 Shadowdancer
23 Shadowdancer
24 Shadowdancer Great DEX 2
25 Shadowdancer
26 Shadowdancer
27 Shadowdancer Epic Dodge
28 Arcane Archer
29 Arcane Archer
30 Arcane Archer Great DEX 3
31 Arcane Archer Great DEX 4
32 Shadowdancer
33 shadowdancer Self concealment 1
34 Shadowdancer Self Concealment 2
35 Shadowdancer
36 Shadowdancer Self Concealment 3
37 Shadowdancer Self Concealment 4
38 Arcane Archer
39 Arcane Archer Self Concealment 5
40 Bard

Skills
Discipline
UMD
Spot
Move Silently (minimum
Hide (minimum 30)
Perform
Spellcraft

Syrath

However I would amend the build , drop STR and int to 10 and , raise dex to 20 , drop the last 2 great dex feats and take epic weapon focus , and maybe epic prowess in its place.

This is not the most offensive AA build. You should try it out however. Jack up the AC enough this really is a build to contend with. Really depends what items are available in your world. Take it to lower magic world then offense becomes king.

Syrath Evo, i really like your build. Do you have a more detailed lay out of it?

Cant wait to give it a go! Evo's skeletal archer is probably the strongest pvp archer until the 1.64 patch goes gold. Then it might be a tossup between that build and the bard/RDD/AA builds that can dev crit with a bow. Dev Crit with a 19-20 Crit Range? My opinion...you sacrifice too much AB/AC for a tiny chance to kill someone instantly...