Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Profile: Friday, 10 September 2004 01:44PM
Can anyone give me a guide to create a good Monk/Wiz/PM? There have been posted, but it isn't very well-detailed...thanks!
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Dimundome
Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Profile: Friday, 10 September 2004 01:53PM
This is a kind of build request and should be posted in the General Discussion forum. One of the mods will probably move this there.
As for your question, I'm afraid I can't help you, I have no experience with that build yet.
Help really needed in creating a good Monk/Wiz/PM...thanks!!!
hi Evange this may help you....by Cyotis
This Monk has a lot of immunities like to Critical Hits which is a big melee threat, High spell resistance to protect against high damage spells, Immunity to mind spells which covers a large spectrum of statis threats, immunity to being held and paralyse is great for a melee character so they can always get to the action to do the damage and he has 20 damage reduction along with empty body makes this monk hard to hit and do damage to. With high strength he does great damage (12-31) unarmed. 6 attacks possible with the first attack starting at 39 for attack bonus. With your wizard spells if u take all the buffing spells you can up your stats before a good fight. The add ability to summon some extra help in a battle is always a plus. If you take all the criticals you can do great damage. If you take the max HP for every level you can end up with 420 HP atleast if you only take one epic toughness.
First 20 levels are all Monk: giving all stat bonuses to strength and taking these feats: Great Cleave, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (unarmed), Improved Critical (unarmed), improved initiative, Luck of heros, Toughness and, Blind Fight.
The next five are the Wizard levels. Feats: Epic Weapon Focus (unarmed), Great Strength, Overwealming Critical and, Extend spell so the buffing spells i chose last longer. all stat bonuses to strength.
The 10 Levels after this are to Pale Master. All stat Bonuses to Strength. Feats: Great Strength ll and lll, Devistating Critical.
The last five levels are to Monk. All stat bonuses to Strength. Feats: Great Strength lv, and Epic Toughness.
Only Toughness, Epic Toughness, The critical attack feats(3), Weapon Focus, Epic Weapon Focus, Great Strength I - IV and Great Cleave are the real important feats to makeing this a great character. The rest are up the the player discretion.
In the end all skill can be divided up at the player discretion. Proferablly: 43 Disipline, 40 tumble, 43 listin, 43 heal and the rest to what ever.
The Fearless Monk truely has nothing to fear. He can take damage, deal damage, immune to high damaging attacks, very resistant to spells, immune to mind spells, immune to movement hinderances and immune to desease and poison. What does this warrior have to fear? What or who can stand in his way?
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i also found this in my notes...by KadzuNinja
Introducing the 'Pale Monk' (Hes pastey and needs some sun)
The d*mn loading screen from HotU always tells me a Palemaster / Monk is a potent adversary, so I tried to build the best kind
Wizard 3 / PaleMaster 17 / Monk 20 Race - Elf Align - Lawful Neutral Stats: Start (End) Str 10 (10) Dex 18 (22) Con 12 (12) Int 16 (16) Wis 16 (22) Cha 8 (8)
Pros: Spell Resistance of 36 3 Epic Spells High AC Super Duper Speed! Immune to Crits, Mind Spells, Hold, Paralyze, and Stun
Cons: Low Attacks without magic or items
Magic Items: Look for Gloves that do an insane amount of damage Dex items increase not only AC but attack also
it was fun to build, so I hope you have fun playing it. Any question/comments/concerns leave a post and I'll get back to you. Thx -Kadzu ** ** ** ** ** ** griphook
Edited By griphook on 09/10/04 20:17
Hey thanks!
This is a caster version of the Monk/Wiz/PM (actually Wiz/PM/Monk), but it's quite powerful. Can't fight worth a damn, but it's spellcasting ability should hold you in good stead.
AC: 10 base +2 Dex +1 Wis +6 Bone Skin +8 Tumble ______ 27 Naked AC
HP: 334 max unbuffed (assuming +30 from Deathless Vigor)
Note that you get access to all Epic Spells, as well as Auto-Silent spell III (you're stealthy, and this way those friggin Bards and Clerics can't stop you from casting). You also get a decent AC for a caster, especially with Improved Expertise. Make sure to buff Dex and Wis with Empowered Cat's Grace and Owl's Wisdom for best effect (could choose Max. Spell instead, I prefer Empower).
Wiz 3/PM 17/ Monk 20 is really a fantastic build...but the Ghoul King summon really sux! I was thinking of either lowering or raising the PM level so that i can get a Greater Bodak or Vampire Mage...any suggestions?
PS: PMs get to summon a Vampire Mage at L18 and Greater Bodak at L14
I'm thinking of modifiying the Wiz 3/PM 17/Monk 20 build so that it only has 14 levels of PM...thinking of whether to add the surplus 3 levels to either Wiz or Monk or distribute between the both of them...anyone can give me any suggestion or guidance?
Quote: Posted 09/18/04 13:58:13 (GMT) -- Evange
I'm thinking of modifiying the Wiz 3/PM 17/Monk 20 build so that it only has 14 levels of PM...thinking of whether to add the surplus 3 levels to either Wiz or Monk or distribute between the both of them...anyone can give me any suggestion or guidance?
It really depends...
But I recommend that you put three points into monk for more speed. I am not sure what the percentage of the speed is after 20th level. But if the speed doesn't increase past level 20, put three levels into PM instead because you can get epic spells if you have more than 15 levels of PM. The level 16 is the first level that you can get epic spell if you pick that class at the feat selection level.
Anuis
Speed increases every 3 levels, so it will do so at 21. Put the other 2 in wiz so your spells last longer. At least, that's my suggestion. _________________ Have I mentioned I hate IGMS?
Screw the summons, it'll suck no matter what. At level 38 do you think it'll make a diff?
Just go wiz 3/monk 21/pm 16 and you'll have the best of all worlds. First 20 monk-3 wiz-16 pm-1 monk. Get ep mage armor and epic warding and nothing will touch the monk.
Thanks for the help! I've decided on making a Monk 21/PM 14/Wiz 5, so that my buffing spells can last longer. Can anyone give me an idea of the class level progression? This is one of my 1st epic builds...thanks!
I posted my build here too. called "monk/wiz/pm"
I agree with evo_dragon. PM summons suck. You don't take PM for the summons, or the death touch.
Hmm.. thats an interesting point. "You don't take pms for the summons" to which i agree wholeheartedly. But now heres the thing: i remember reading somewhere in Iconic builds that a pm is about summons.. LOL To change the topic 100000%.. what then is a pm good for (besides the imm to crit, bonus to AC, Epic spells (warding), and a super cool arm! LOL
Peace
I don't get where the summons thing came from.. evo was the first to mention summons. We were talking about taking more wiz levels to almost double buffing spell length. (3->5) Edit: oh and the free metamagic feat at 5 wiz. _________________ Have I mentioned I hate IGMS?
Edited By yrtsns on 09/27/04 17:17
Quote: Posted 09/27/04 17:16:29 (GMT) -- yrtsns
I don't get where the summons thing came from.. evo was the first to mention summons. We were talking about taking more wiz levels to almost double buffing spell length. (3->5) Edit: oh and the free metamagic feat at 5 wiz.
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Quote: Wiz 3/PM 17/ Monk 20 is really a fantastic build...but the Ghoul King summon really sux! I was thinking of either lowering or raising the PM level so that i can get a Greater Bodak or Vampire Mage...any suggestions?
PS: PMs get to summon a Vampire Mage at L18 and Greater Bodak at L14
And buffing length from 3 -> 5 isn't worth losing 2 ac, epic warding and epic mage armor over.
Oh I would agree entirely. But I was going on what Evange said (s)he wanted to do, which was drop 3 of those pm levels. Personally if I were to do the build I'd probably go 18 monk/16 pm/6 wiz. _________________ Have I mentioned I hate IGMS?
... and if you want 9th level spells, I'd recommend 15 monk, 9 wizard, 16 Pale Master. Take PM 16 at level 39 to get both Epic Warding and Epic Mage Armour. Finish up with a level of monk to max tumble/disciple.
