Im curious as to whether a monk can effectivly use non-class related weapon profs. Say I wanted a monk to wield a Great Sword for example, can I expect to have 5 attacks/ round with it? Would I still be able to use Flurry of Blows? hi,

wel it sounds that you know a lot of building monks.
now i have a question.
i want to build a fast monk that fights whit two kamas and which i can solo with.
so he needs to be strong enough.
do you have any idea how i have to build it?
thanks a lot,

kevin First off, I'm not a good builder; this is just observation from my own tests:

Quote: Posted 12/22/04 01:25:52 (GMT) -- Modern Prometheus

Im curious as to whether a monk can effectivly use non-class related weapon profs. Say I wanted a monk to wield a Great Sword for example, can I expect to have 5 attacks/ round with it? Would I still be able to use Flurry of Blows?
These abilities are tied to unarmed or fist only. So, you would get 3 attacks with a pure lvl20 Monk IIRC, using a greatsword.

The attack rate is the main reason you usually don't find good Kama's on PW's

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hi,

wel it sounds that you know a lot of building monks.
now i have a question.
i want to build a fast monk that fights whit two kamas and which i can solo with.
so he needs to be strong enough.
do you have any idea how i have to build it?
thanks a lot,

kevin
Don't go with strength, I would say go with Dex and Finnesse. You would benefit more from a dex-based monk as dex ac bonus is superhigh with monks.

Edited By Khandahr on 12/22/04 11:17

ok, i see.
hanks a lot, i think ill begin with building soon.
maybe the first one isnt very good, but eventually there will be a good monk from my hand
thanks,

kevin I believe the only weapon that uses the monks higher unarmed attack rate is kamas in NWN compared to the pnp version which has several others. As for build routes with a monk, many are viable. Some that go wisdom are nice for if you actually plan on using unarmed combat. Others that use str or dex are both good options. There are tons of variations on the builds page.
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Quote: Posted 12/22/04 08:01:12 (GMT) -- TordekofTorunn

hi,

wel it sounds that you know a lot of building monks.
now i have a question.
i want to build a fast monk that fights whit two kamas and which i can solo with.
so he needs to be strong enough.
do you have any idea how i have to build it?
thanks a lot,

kevin

Tordek,

It's not polite to hijack other poster's threads. start your own thread if you have a different question.

Kaliban
Quote: Posted 12/22/04 01:25:52 (GMT) -- Modern Prometheus

Im curious as to whether a monk can effectivly use non-class related weapon profs. Say I wanted a monk to wield a Great Sword for example, can I expect to have 5 attacks/ round with it? Would I still be able to use Flurry of Blows?

As answered already, Flurry of Blows only works with Kamas or Unarmed combat. I believe there's a trick/bug/'feature' where if you wield a kama in your right hand and hold a different weapon in your left hand you still get Flurry of Blows to work. But you'll need the two weapon fighting feats to effectively wield a weapon in your off-hand.

If you want to wield a different weapon (eg. Greatsword, Katana, etc) you could take 4 fighter levels pre-epic to boost your AB to 16 thus giving you 4 attacks per round.

For example: Level 1 as Monk, levels 2-5 as Fighter (taking Weapon Focus and Weapon Specialization), and then resume Monk levels to 20. In Epic levels take Epic Weapon Focus and then another fighter level (at 21, 24, or 27) to take Epic Weapon Spec. You could probably get both Epic Weapon feats on character level 21 or 24 if you take Fighter 5 at that level. (I always advise testing the build offline to ensure the level progression is accurate and well planned.)

Or you could go the dual wielding route and get 6 attacks per round with Improved Two Weapon Fighting, wielding say short swords or rapiers.

Just some ideas for you.

If you're interested, I have a build from someone else that they call The Immortal - it's a Monk 25/Fighter 8/Weapon Master 7 specializing in dual-wielding rapiers. He's a fun character to play. Monk speed plus Dual Wield plus Dev. Crit: Rapiers.

Kaliban.
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Kaliban99 could you provide a link to the Monk/Fig/WM? or can I find it in Epic Bulids topic?
Thanks.
M_Prometheus

One more thing: with Weapon Finesse is it not better to go Dex rather than Wis based even with a focus in unarmed?

Edited By Modern Prometheus on 12/24/04 20:12

Quote: Posted 12/24/04 20:10:19 (GMT) -- Modern Prometheus

Thanks guys, i knew you wouldnt let me down.
Kaliban99 could you provide a link to the Monk/Fig/WM? or can I find it in Epic Bulids topic?
Thanks.
M_Prometheus

One more thing: with Weapon Finesse is it not better to go Dex rather than Wis based even with a focus in unarmed?

You can look through the index. There should be many variations of the layout that you are specifying.

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Classes: - Monk 25/Fighter 8/WM 7
Race: - Human
Alignment: - Any lawful

Stats: - S 16 (26), D 15, C 14, I 14, W 8, C 8 -

1 - Monk 1 - Dodge, Expertise
2 - Fighter 1 - Mobility
3 - Fighter 2 - Weapon Focus, 2 Wpn Fighting
4 - Fighter 3
5 - Fighter 4 - Weapon Spec
6 - Fighter 5 - Spring Attack
7 - Fighter 6 - Whirlwind Attack
8 - WM 1
9 - WM 2 - Ambidexterity
10 - WM 3
11 - WM 4
12 - WM 5 - Imp. 2 Wpn Fighting
13 - WM 6
14 - Monk 2
15 - Monk 3 - Imp. Crit
16 - Monk 4
17 - Monk 5
18 - Monk 6 - Power Attack
19 - Monk 7
20 - Monk 8
21 - WM 7 - Epic Weapon Focus
22 - Fighter 7
23 - Fighter 8 - Epic Weapon Spec
24 - Monk 9 - Great Cleave
25 - Monk 10
26 - Monk 11
27 - Monk 12 - Toughness or Disarm or ???
28 - Monk 13
29 - Monk 14
30 - Monk 15 - Overwhelming Crit
31 - Monk 16
32 - Monk 17
33 - Monk 18 - Epic Prowess or Blind Fight or Skill Focus: Disc or Imp Disarm or ???
34 - Monk 19
35 - Monk 20
36 - Monk 21 - Dev. Crit
37 - Monk 22
38 - Monk 23
39 - Monk 24 - Armor Skin
40 - Monk 25 - Epic Toughness I

AC 27 HP 404 BA 28
AB: - 37/32/27/22 & 37/32
Fort Save - 25
Reflex Save - 25
Will Save - 19
Feats: - Max: Tumble, Conc, Disc, Hide, MS, Open Lock

Edited By Kaliban99 on 12/25/04 02:49

Quote: Posted 12/24/04 20:10:19 (GMT) -- Modern Prometheus

Thanks guys, i knew you wouldnt let me down.
Kaliban99 could you provide a link to the Monk/Fig/WM? or can I find it in Epic Bulids topic?
Thanks.
M_Prometheus

See my reply above.

Quote: One more thing: with Weapon Finesse is it not better to go Dex rather than Wis based even with a focus in unarmed?

It's not better, it's mandatory. Weapon Finesse applies your dexterity bonus to your attack value (if it's higher than your strength bonus). No other stats are involved in Weapon Finesse. So if you're building a Dex-based monk, one of your early feats would be Weapon Finesse. You'll find many examples of this in the builds here on the guild, and by doing a search for "Monk" in the NWN boards.

Building characters is like coding HTML - just copy everyone else's work until you know what you're doing and can do it better on your own.

Kaliban

PS - Before you commit to a build on a PW, make sure you build it in an offline training mod and keep notes on the exact progression. I do all mine in an Excel file and then save them. That's where that Immortal build came from.