Hi

Im searching for a good PvM monk build that is viable with very few options to gain magic items and if so they will be very bad. Im fresh for any ideas really. The main thing is that it has to have alot of monk speed, because it looks cool Have you looked through the list of builds

Indexed List of the Builds

for monk builds? There are a lot in there.

If you haven't looked, go look. If you have looked, let us know what you liked, what you didn't like, what classes & feats you want, etc.

That will help us to help you.

Kaliban

Edited By Kaliban99 on 01/02/05 16:56

I have more detailed description of the things i think i need for the build. The builds on the forum wasn't nearly what i was looking for or they were perhabs too mooded in a certain way that i could hardly see the model i think i want for this build.


The world is a low magic world and and the items doesn't grant imunnities or anything that would make you resistent to anything.

Due to restrictions on races, it is limited to human, halfling and or half elf.

shadowdancer is neccesary for HIPS. But even though its a dexer monk it has to be able to do some dmg. sneak attack is proberly the best. also it has to get good dmg potential and surviveability from very low lvl. using fists and lvl 20 monk is also required.

As for feats it would be preferable to get SC V. If you like a build like this one, Death's Hand, PM me and I'll convert it to human for you (no XP penalty, extra CON, 2 point lower DEX). It should have everything you want except for SC V, but you'll have empty body, and the ability to UMD improved invisibility and displacement.
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Edited By Mithdradates on 01/06/05 05:45

I had a human version already, fur vitae. There were a couple improvement that could have been made to that build so here it is again, I haven't tested it but I don't think I missed anything.

Level 1 Human, LE, Rogue
Base Attributes
STR 14
DEX 16
CON 14
WIS 10
INT 14
CHA 8
Feat: ambidexterity, two-weapon fighting

Level 3 Rogue 1/Monk 2
Feat: weapon finesse

Level 4 Rogue 1/Monk 3
DEX +1

Level 6 Rogue 1/Monk 5
Feat: weapon focus (kama)

Level 8 Rogue 1/Monk 7
DEX +1

Level 9 Rogue 1/Monk 8
Feat: dodge

Level 12 Rogue 1/Monk 11
DEX +1
Feat: mobility

Level 15 Rogue 3/Monk 12
Feat: improved two-weapon fighting

Level 16 Rogue 4/Monk 12
DEX +1

Level 18 Rogue 6/Monk 12
Feat: blind fight

Level 20 Rogue 8/Monk 12
DEX +1

Level 21 Rogue 8/Monk 12/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: epic weapon focus (kama)

Level 23 Rogue 10/Monk 12/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: defensive roll

Level 24 Rogue 10/Monk 13/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1
Feat: epic prowess

Level 27 Rogue 10/Monk 16/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: great dexterity I

Level 28 Rogue 11/Monk 16/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1

Level 30 Rogue 13/Monk 16/Shadowdancer 1
Feats: epic dodge, great dexterity II

Level 32 Rogue 13/Monk 18/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1

Level 33 Rogue 13/Monk 19/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: great dexterity III

Level 36 Rogue 16/Monk 19/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1
Feats: cripling strike, great dexterity IV

Level 39 Rogue 19/Monk 19/Shadowdancer 1
Feats: improved sneak attack, armor skin

Level 40 Rogue 19/Monk 20/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1

Final Stats
STR 14
DEX 30
CON 14
WIS 10
INT 14
CHA 8

Hit Points (max every level) 362

Final Saves
Fortitude 22
Reflexes 34
Will 20

Spell Resistance 30

AC (no items, no buffs) 31

AB and Damage

(no buffs, regular kamas)
37/34/31/28/25 2+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (20 X2)
37/34 1+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (20 X2)

(+12 STR, +12 DEX, true strike, +5 keen kamas)
63/60/57/54/51 13+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (19-20 X2)
63/60 9+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (19-20 X2)

(i)391 skill points, suggested use,[i/]

Craft Trap 30
Disable Trap 32
Discipline 43
Hide 43
Lockpick 33
Move Silently 43
Persuade 23
Search 32
Set Trap 30
Tumble 40
Use Magic Devices 42
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It's a Human Monk 20 / Cleric 15 / Shadowdancer 5 build. Very versatile, with options to deal with a wide variety of opponents.

Edited By Zhoreb on 01/06/05 10:41

Quote: Posted 01/06/05 06:53:29 (GMT) -- Kaliban99

How about this one:

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Kaliban.

Sorry, wrong URL. I meant this one:

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Quote: Posted 01/06/05 06:51:20 (GMT) -- Mithdradates

I had a human version already, fur vitae. There were a couple improvement that could have been made to that build so here it is again, I haven't tested it but I don't think I missed anything.

Level 1 Human, LE, Rogue
Base Attributes
STR 14
DEX 16
CON 14
WIS 10
INT 14
CHA 8
Feat: ambidexterity, two-weapon fighting

Level 3 Rogue 1/Monk 2
Feat: weapon finesse

Level 4 Rogue 1/Monk 3
DEX +1

Level 6 Rogue 1/Monk 5
Feat: weapon focus (kama)

Level 8 Rogue 1/Monk 7
DEX +1

Level 9 Rogue 1/Monk 8
Feat: dodge

Level 12 Rogue 1/Monk 11
DEX +1
Feat: mobility

Level 15 Rogue 3/Monk 12
Feat: improved two-weapon fighting

Level 16 Rogue 4/Monk 12
DEX +1

Level 18 Rogue 6/Monk 12
Feat: blind fight

Level 20 Rogue 8/Monk 12
DEX +1

Level 21 Rogue 8/Monk 12/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: epic weapon focus (kama)

Level 23 Rogue 10/Monk 12/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: defensive roll

Level 24 Rogue 10/Monk 13/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1
Feat: epic prowess

Level 27 Rogue 10/Monk 16/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: great dexterity I

Level 28 Rogue 11/Monk 16/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1

Level 30 Rogue 13/Monk 16/Shadowdancer 1
Feats: epic dodge, great dexterity II

Level 32 Rogue 13/Monk 18/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1

Level 33 Rogue 13/Monk 19/Shadowdancer 1
Feat: great dexterity III

Level 36 Rogue 16/Monk 19/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1
Feats: cripling strike, great dexterity IV

Level 39 Rogue 19/Monk 19/Shadowdancer 1
Feats: improved sneak attack, armor skin

Level 40 Rogue 19/Monk 20/Shadowdancer 1
DEX +1

Final Stats
STR 14
DEX 30
CON 14
WIS 10
INT 14
CHA 8

Hit Points (max every level) 362

Final Saves
Fortitude 22
Reflexes 34
Will 20

Spell Resistance 30

AC (no items, no buffs) 31

AB and Damage

(no buffs, regular kamas)
37/34/31/28/25 2+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (20 X2)
37/34 1+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (20 X2)

(+12 STR, +12 DEX, true strike, +5 keen kamas)
63/60/57/54/51 13+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (19-20 X2)
63/60 9+1D4 (+11D6 sneak attack) (19-20 X2)

(i)391 skill points, suggested use,[i/]

Craft Trap 30
Disable Trap 32
Discipline 43
Hide 43
Lockpick 33
Move Silently 43
Persuade 23
Search 32
Set Trap 30
Tumble 40
Use Magic Devices 42

This is by far the best monk build, that fits the description. I did check it out but i wasn't impressed. Now when I think of a few changes, it will be just what I am looking for. Thx