I am playing on a high magic based world where I would need at least a low 50 AB and 70 AC (without IMP EXPERTISE)

I am thinking of a Fighter/WM/Shadowdancer or Rogue build. Epic dodge is a plus.

If you know of a build or are able to build, please let me know... I cannot find a search option, so I am forced to ask here.

Thanks in advance I'd be sorely tempted by some sort of Ftr/rogue/DwD to fit that sort of requirement, either that or Ftr/rogue/WM. Dragon Shape shifter dude usually hits around 50AB and with decent armor it can hook it's AC into the high 70s and low 80s

-DaMouse here's a build i've used with alot of success and seems to fit what your looking for.
his name is Mandrake Moonthistle GrS
All points go to dex on lvl ups
he's a dual weilding dwarf fighter/wm/shadowdancer
starting stats:
str 10
dex 18
con 16
int 14
wis 8
cha 6
Level Progression:
1.fighter: dodge/mobility
2.fighter: expertise
3.fighter: spring attack
4.fighter: weapon finess
5.fighter
6.fighter: whirlwind/weapon focus rapier
7.fighter
8.fighter: weapon specialization rapier remember to have four points in intimidate for wm
9.wm: improved crit rapier
10.wm
11.wm
12.wm: ambidexterity
13.wm
14.wm
15.wm: 2 weapon fighting
16.wm
17.wm
18.wm: improved 2 weapon fighting...remember to have 10 ranks in hide 8 ranks in move silent and at least 5 tumble for shadowdancer
19.sd
20.sd
21.wm: epic dex featI
22.wm
23.wm: epic weapon focus: rapier
24.wm: great dex II
25.sd
26.sd
27.sd: great dex III
28.sd:
29.wm:
30.sd: great dex IV
31.sd
32.sd
33.wm: epic prowess, great dex V
34.wm:
35.sd
36.sd: epic dodge and max out tumble!
37.wm
38.wm
39.wm: armor skin, great dex VI
40.wm..end of story and baddies

you'll notice that while dual weilding w/+7 rapier you'll get around 56 ab..with one 60 or so
w/o shield you'll be rocking an ac around 70 w/o expertise on and around 85 with a +7 tower...i'll check back if you have any question about this build if not...have fun!
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gwen'eth moonthistle
Quote: Posted 06/17/05 03:22:50 (GMT) -- unknown souljah

you'll notice that while dual weilding w/+7 rapier you'll get around 56 ab..with one 60 or so
w/o shield you'll be rocking an ac around 70 w/o expertise on and around 85 with a +7 tower...i'll check back if you have any question about this build if not...have fun!

I like the idea, but we usually post builds with mundane itms. That gives a real impression of the build.

Peace
Quote: Posted 06/17/05 03:39:51 (GMT) -- avado

Quote: Posted 06/17/05 03:22:50 (GMT) -- unknown souljah

you'll notice that while dual weilding w/+7 rapier you'll get around 56 ab..with one 60 or so
w/o shield you'll be rocking an ac around 70 w/o expertise on and around 85 with a +7 tower...i'll check back if you have any question about this build if not...have fun!

I like the idea, but we usually post builds with mundane itms. That gives a real impression of the build.

Peace

yeah without the gear the AB is 49... doh! still, might be close enough and the AC is not bad at all 95 with ImpEx? edit... well, and the +7 tower of course

Edited By sobebop on 06/17/05 05:52

thats right w/o the gear and while dual weilding...the dual weilding was not a requirement so the ab is well into the acceptable range i should not have added the gear into the equation but he mentioned the high magic persistant world and I made a misteak to post it with the items...add +4 to all stats because he did not want a dual weilder.
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gwen'eth moonthistle nice ideas!

thanks for posting with magic gear, as I said, I am in a hugely high magic world. question though...

why shadowdancer.. why not assassin or rogue? One reason is that shadow dancer to lvl 10 gives you the prerequisites you need for epic dodge as bonus feats, that way you can use your feats on other useful things
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If everyone is thinking alike, then someone is failing to think. shadowdancer was my choice because of their ability to get higher hit points, hide in plain sight is HUGE, get defensive roll and improved evasion by the time they hit 10th and shadow evade was something i never mentioned but you have it's use 3 times a day and it adds ac/concealment and dmg reduction for five rounds(it really helps in a large boss battle...i'm glad you did not mind the items being assumed to be there because I assumed you were on such a server and i was just adding on what i figured you'd find...btw the way i have another fighter/wm/shadowdancer single weild build with selfconceal 50% and epic dodge and around the same offensive/defensive stats or even possibly better...i'd have to go on the server i use to write down the build and then post it...if you are interested...let me know...
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gwen'eth moonthistle