elf
21 bard/18 figher/1 druid

19 dex
8 con
14 int
15 cha

6 bard, 12 fighter, 2 bard.

skill focus disc, toughness, weapon focus, imp crit rapier, kd, ikd, curse song, lingering song, extend spell, great fortitude, fire resist 5, blind fighting, weapon specialization, weapon finesse

any leveling order, finish with bard.

great dexterity 1-5, epic weapon focus, epic prowess, armour skin, lasting inspiration, epic skill focus disc.

ab: 63 outdoors
ac: 82
hp: 554

43 disc
43 concentration
43 perform
43 listen
40 tumble
9 taunt
1 spellcraft

discipline from 76 up.
listen maxes with two +4 listen items. maxes at 94, 6 more with full wisdom.
this lets you focus on fortitude, which you have no shortage of, didn't test for values as i didn't perfect the equipment.

pros: high ab dex bard, constant hitter. doesnt need to curse or taunt every enemy to have a chance of hitting them.
cons: no evasion, beware traps.

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christian.schnabel

Quote:  Posted 10/07/05 02:58:07 (GMT) -- InCruentus

elf
21 bard/18 figher/1 druid

19 dex
8 con
14 int
15 cha

6 bard, 12 fighter, 2 bard.

skill focus disc, toughness, weapon focus, imp crit rapier, kd, ikd, curse song, lingering song, extend spell, great fortitude, fire resist 5, blind fighting, weapon specialization, weapon finesse

any leveling order, finish with bard.

great dexterity 1-5, epic weapon focus, epic prowess, armour skin, lasting inspiration, epic skill focus disc.

ab: 63 outdoors
ac: 82
hp: 554

43 disc
43 concentration
43 perform
43 listen
40 tumble
9 taunt
1 spellcraft

discipline from 76 up.
listen maxes with two +4 listen items. maxes at 94, 6 more with full wisdom.
this lets you focus on fortitude, which you have no shortage of, didn't test for values as i didn't perfect the equipment.

pros: high ab dex bard, constant hitter. doesnt need to curse or taunt every enemy to have a chance of hitting them.
cons: no evasion, beware traps.

well, i will try to be gentle.

first off, what is the purpose of this build? did you have a specific goal when building this, is it aimed more towards RP aspects?

second, not to nitpick, but you didn't really include much information on your build. take a look at some other builds, and you can see that most people post a little more information, so that others have a better idea of what they are looking at.

third, why do you take a single level of druid?

fourth, is this a melee-based build? if so, i would hate to think of a melee build with 8 Con. especially when the classes used are mostly d6 hitdie. this also makes your finishing HP quite a mystery. i think your highest base score for HP with these classes and that CON is 274.

fifth, what are the final stats of your build. you posted ab and ac (both of which seem mighty high, but then again i can't see how you built this char to understand how you achieved such mighty numbers), but you neglected to post finishing stats for str, dex, etc.

that is enough for now. i hope that wasn't too painful.

-c
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InCruentus

yes yes im hurtin in my side, as i said this is a build i put on paper its mostly pvp cause thats what i enjoy makin, im sure alot of stats could be changed significally, but most weapon is based on a +4 keen, and i beleave clothing with +6 ac and +8 con on it due to the server i play on, i was hoping yall could help me improve it i think the druid leve lmight have been for, well now i cant remember ;/, as far as stories go im horrible at them reason my bios on my chars stay empty.

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Kaliban99

Hi, I'm not gentle - allow me to nitpick:
Let me give you some suggestions to elicit more feedback:

No one is asking for a story, rather; he's saying look at 99% of the other posts here and they all follow a similar format. This permits people to judge them on a level playing field and understand how they're put together.

Rather than listing a bunch of feats in a paragraph, write out the leveling of the build, level by level, so we understand what your plan is and how it can be improved.

For example:
1 Rogue 1 Dodge
2 Fighter 1 Weapon Finesse
3 Rogue 2 Weapon Focus: Short Sword
Etc, etc, etc

Another thing is that every post here assumes mundane (non-magic) items when posting final stats. So don't include your +10 Plate Mail of l33tness when calculating final AC, just put the AC from a naked character. Same with your final AB - assume a mundane weapon of choice.

If your build is not complete and you want input, then it should be posted in the general discussion area. As it's posted now, it's difficult to fully evaluate it.

I'd like to see it reposted in the standard format we all use here.

PS - Did you include Strength in your stats? I don't see it listed....

Kaliban
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InCruentus

nope on the str and sorry, i wil lrepost under build request? and as i said i thought of this at work on a notepad. and no theres no +10 mail of leetness although id like there to be one.i more or less need more imput from yall to build this character, i guess i missguided al of you on what i was tryn to do and of course as suual posted this in the wrong area :~(

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bloodymerc

well imo you have to many fighter lvls , thats a waste , and so seems the druid lvl...as a 3rd class i would advice you to talk rogue ,assasin , sd or barbarian to get uncanny dodge...your build gets high dex and it would be a pain if you get caught flatfooted and looses the high bonus .

personally i woul aim for rogue or sd to get evasion and if you like to take more lvls in those classes epic dodge...like eh maybe 20bard 10 sd 10fighter , 16bard4 fighter per epic the rest epic , so you can still get gr.dex6 epic dodge lasting insp all melee feast(epicweaponfocus ,prowress,armorskin).
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InCruentus

Bloodymerc, then how would you build it out then?

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Jennalee

Quote: Posted 10/07/05 12:37:36 (GMT) -- InCruentus

Bloodymerc, then how would you build it out then?

How he'd build it depends on what you're actually trying to do with the build :S. You don't seem to have a focus for it.
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Cinnabar Din

Too many FTR levels would depend entirely on what you're trying to accomplish with the build. A lot of FTR levels can be quite an asset.

Check out my Master of Resistance and Dualist builds for examples of reasons to take a lot of FTR levels.

InCruentus, I take it you're not concerned with XP penalties in the build? If not, it would certain free up how many levels you take of which class and how you level the character as well.
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Stravinsky00

Also, one last format note. When you do have this build completed and are ready to post it in this forum, all builds must list the classes and levels in the title of the post.

steve
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theshadow0015

This reminds me of the 11 Bard/ 4 Fighter/ 5 Druid I made pre-HotU build I made... that was a fun little build.

I'd like to see more of how you leveled this build.

Edited By griphook on 10/07/05 20:07

Ty griphook much appreciated on the move.