I'm having a bit of confusion here. Can someone explain to me the +20 AB cap and how some builds can overcome this?

I guess I just don't know what "doesn't" get affected by the +20 cap. I read the list of what does http://www.nwnwiki.org/Attack_bonus_cap but that doesn't tell me how some builds get more.

1d20 roll
+40 BAB
+20 cap
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61-80

I've heard refferences to higher ab builds.

Help please.
Quote: Posted 03/28/07 15:59 (GMT) -- Bromium

I'm having a bit of confusion here. Can someone explain to me the +20 AB cap and how some builds can overcome this?

I guess I just don't know what "doesn't" get affected by the +20 cap. I read the list of what does http://www.nwnwiki.org/Attack_bonus_cap but that doesn't tell me how some builds get more.

1d20 roll
+40 BAB
+20 cap
=====
61-80

I've heard refferences to higher ab builds.

Help please.

Well, all that counts towards the +20 have been listed on the Wiki. On top of that, you can have 30 BAB, EWF, EP, ability score (STR/DEX/WIS), WM/AA boni, Smites, flanking bonus, KD bonus, Wilderness bonus, et cetera.
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Edited By FinneousPJ on 03/28/07 16:31

oops my bad, not +40 BAB, I meant +30 BAB @ lvl 40 of course.
Quote: Posted 03/28/07 16:31 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

On top of that, you can have 30 BAB, EWF, EP, ability score (STR/DEX/WIS), WM/AA boni, Smites, flanking bonus, KD bonus, Wilderness bonus, et cetera.

That's what I'm missing in my logic. I thought it was incorporated into the +20 cap.

*grabs his quill and abucus and re-calculates his new and improved build.*

muahaha

Thanks Finn
Quote: Posted 03/28/07 16:41 (GMT) -- Bromium

Quote: Posted 03/28/07 16:31 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

On top of that, you can have 30 BAB, EWF, EP, ability score (STR/DEX/WIS), WM/AA boni, Smites, flanking bonus, KD bonus, Wilderness bonus, et cetera.

That's what I'm missing in my logic. I thought it was incorporated into the +20 cap.

*grabs his quill and abucus and re-calculates his new and improved build.*

muahaha

Thanks Finn

The +20 cap only regards direct magical enhancements of a universal nature (therefore excluding smites).
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We will die The other thing that doesn't count towards the cap is effects that lower enemy AC - i.e. Bard Song, Taunt, etc. Some builds make good use of those, and count them in their calculations of "buffed" AB.

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