I haven't played in awhile so I'm a bit out of the loop on this topic, but has Whirlwind attack been fixed?
Thanks!
Quote: Posted 04/17/09 19:16 (GMT) -- Angelfire1
I haven't played in awhile so I'm a bit out of the loop on this topic, but has Whirlwind attack been fixed?
Thanks!
Nope. All extra attacks are at a descending -5 starting with full AB.
EDIT Actually I take that back. It seems the 1.69 fixed it.
Edited By WhiZard on 04/17/09 19:32
Quote: Posted 04/17/09 19:19 (GMT) -- WhiZard
EDIT Actually I take that back. It seems the 1.69 fixed it.
Aye, 1.69 fixed it. _________________ They can't stop us Let them try For Heavy Metal We will die
Edited By Kail Pendragon on 04/18/09 12:53
It seems 1.69 also fixed the bug where you sometimes completely stopped attacking after using WWA, happening in modules with .HAKs and the like. _________________ People who say that I am arrogant are mistaken. Arrogance is a flaw; I am flawless.
Huh, cool, a good bonus for Weapon Masters.
So, if it's not bugged anymore, it would be profitable to reassess if Improved Whirlwind Attack is useful or not. Any thoughts? _________________ "My name is Thaxll'ssyllia, but you simians may refer to me merely as "Sir", if you prefer a less... syllable intensive workout."
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I dunno. If you have IWWA, you're a DEXer and probably like sneak attacks, which WWAs are not.
I dunno. If you have IWWA, you're a DEXer and probably like sneak attacks, which WWAs are not.
In a high magic environment the dexers will do better anyway and the damage bonuses on the weapon might make it well worthwhile. I haven't checked assassin, but perhaps a single WWA could paralyze a lot of creatures at a time. Or try shadow dancer where you hide, whirlwind, hide whirlwind.
It seems sneaks are impossible in whirlwind (even if the target is stunned). What is possible is expertise mode (which may be a real boon given all your attacks are at full BAB). The real thing that gives IWWA a significant leap in usage is that it works with on-hits. Thus you could stun a few creatures each round meaning a lot less attacks on you.
Quote: Posted 04/18/09 22:45 (GMT) -- WhiZard
It seems sneaks are impossible in whirlwind (even if the target is stunned).
Aye, it was the Hooded One (Grimnir) who discovered it long ago IIRC.
WWA also comes handy if one needs to attack an enemy under GS cover. _________________ They can't stop us Let them try For Heavy Metal We will die
It seems sneaks are impossible in whirlwind (even if the target is stunned).
Aye, it was the Hooded One (Grimnir) who discovered it long ago IIRC.
WWA also comes handy if one needs to attack an enemy under GS cover.
Someone mentioned it shouldn't be possible according to PnP rules. Hence I commenced massive testing, and under no circumstance at all can you get sneak attacks from WWA.
IWWA has on-hit properties, you say? Does that mean they have to save vs death attack paralyze still? Even though you don't get the extra damage. _________________ We are sons of Odin, and the fire that we burn inside is the legacy of warrior-kings who reign above in the sky I will lead the charge, my sword into the wind Sons of Odin fights to die and live again
Whirlwind Attack doesn't break Greater Sanctuary!? that's... so wrong... who the heck programmed that? _________________ "My name is Thaxll'ssyllia, but you simians may refer to me merely as "Sir", if you prefer a less... syllable intensive workout."
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Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 04/19/09 16:19
I know its soo wrong, but if you think on it, bioware are genuis!! See, all you are really doing is spinning in the air! I dont know bout you guys, but i ALWAYS spin in the air, walking down the street! Being a cleric, i always assumed, being in GS that i could be seen. It is so nice to know that no one else sees when i spin down the street!!
Err, I think it's that you can use it to start a combat and thus lure an enemy that's hiding under Greater Sanctuary into combat (thus breaking it), rather than being able to use it to attack without breaking your own GS. _________________ People who say that I am arrogant are mistaken. Arrogance is a flaw; I am flawless.
WWA also comes handy if one needs to attack an enemy under GS cover.
I agree with Gamm. The way I read the above statement is that if one of your opponents is under GS that you can harm them by performing a WWA in the area they are in.
WWA also comes handy if one needs to attack an enemy under GS cover.
I agree with Gamm. The way I read the above statement is that if one of your opponents is under GS that you can harm them by performing a WWA in the area they are in.
I could be wrong.
Yes, that's what I meant: one can use WWA to attack an opponent who is protected by GS. Very handy vs those pesky clerics and mages thinking themselves safe from harm. _________________ They can't stop us Let them try For Heavy Metal We will die
Ok, back to the world of logic and sanity, thanks for clarifying that, now it makes sense. _________________ "My name is Thaxll'ssyllia, but you simians may refer to me merely as "Sir", if you prefer a less... syllable intensive workout."
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Quote: Posted 04/19/09 13:21 (GMT) -- Grimnir77
IWWA has on-hit properties, you say? Does that mean they have to save vs death attack paralyze still? Even though you don't get the extra damage.
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No death attack save. On-hits come from weapons alone. WWA ignores all aspects of sneak/death attack.
