The spells premotion and ethral visage and stoneskin greater shadow shield and such. How do they stack to each other...or even so can anyone post a link that tells me how this works seem a bit lost on this topic.

Raven
Quote: Posted 09/26/09 19:24 (GMT) -- raven blackwood 92

The spells premotion and ethral visage and stoneskin greater shadow shield and such. How do they stack to each other...or even so can anyone post a link that tells me how this works seem a bit lost on this topic.

Raven

With damage reduction only one is used at a time. The one applied is determined in the following order

1. The protection enhancement quality (/+5 for instance) is higher than the penetration capability.

2. Of these the highest reduction (10/ for instance) is taken.

3. Finally, of these highest absorption (100 damage remaining) is used. Actually, after testing, #3 should be of these the first damage reduction effect applied is used (the absorption is not taken into consideration). I'd say it's still wise to stack spells in case someone throws a dispel at you, or one of the given spells absorbs it's capacity of damage and drops. People ask too many times how DR works, you should test it yourself to be certain.

DRs don't stack, only one will take effect, and it will be the one that covers for the most amount of damage against the hit you're recieving, as simply as that. A lot of different examples can be made on "what that means" when put into game terms but that's a bit unnecesary methinks.
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Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 09/27/09 05:15

Quote: Posted 09/27/09 05:14 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

People ask too many times how DR works, you should test it yourself to be certain.

DRs don't stack, only one will take effect, and it will be the one that covers for the most amount of damage against the hit you're recieving, as simply as that.

Slightly inaccurate, when the absorption is lower than the reduction the reduction is still the determining force. For example, if you had premonition with 1 point remaining, and greater stoneskin up, the blow dealt would go against premonition (thus having damage reduced by only one) instead of greater stoneskin (which could reduce it by 20). Well, true, that's because the game won't check how many points are left in your DR source, it assumes it's infinite. I think that was not programmed thinking you would have several spell DRs, since it works perfectly for base DRs which don't expire. The DR given by Premonition was the one that "should" work the best in that case, so that's why Premonition is the one used, you just had bad luck that your DR points weren't enough.

Quote: ...when the absorption is lower than the reduction the reduction is still the determining force.

Not precisely either. There are cases when a lower reduction with higher absorption takes place, but that would be to have an item with 10/+3 plus 6/- for example, maybe a Dwarven Defender with a belt or something. If you recieve a hit by a +2 weapon, you would resist 10 damage, not 6, even though 6/- has a higher reduction value. The thing with spells is that the higher level spell has a higher reduction and an equal or better absorption (or some other combination where one spell has an advantage over the other, I don't know all the DR spell descriptions), so the game decides by the value of the #/# without taking into account how many points you have left.
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Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 09/27/09 18:34

Quote: Posted 09/27/09 18:19 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

Not precisely either. There are cases when a lower reduction with higher absorption takes place, but that would be to have an item with 10/+3 plus 6/- for example, maybe a Dwarven Defender with a belt or something. If you recieve a hit by a +2 weapon, you would resist 10 damage, not 6, even though 6/- has a higher reduction value.

The parts of damage reduction are protection enhancement, reduction, and absorption they are displayed like this (stoneskin given as example).

10 (reduction)/ +5 (protection enhancement) 100 points remaining (absorption).

6/- is lower reduction than 10/+3, protection enhancement is only determines which damage reductions are considered, absorption is ignored, and the reduction determines which of the considered is to be used.

For those of equal reduction (e.g. stoneskin and shadowshield) the first applied takes precedence.

So if shadowshield is cast before stoneskin than an attack with a +2 or lower will apply to shadowshield and not run up the absorption of stoneskin.

Edited By WhiZard on 09/28/09 01:54