I would like to get atleast 6 Fighter and 7 WM in this build and also Self Conceal 5, but no matter how i do it i cant seem to pull it off, Can anyone help with a layout or tips?
I think it is quite doable - as long as you don't mind getting SC V late in the build.
This takes 8 F levels in order to get enough feats to take the two weapon fighting tree as well - if that is not important to you, you could take more R and get the cool epic rogue feats earlier.
1 R Dodge 2 R 3 R Mobility 4 R 5 F Weapon Finesse 6 F Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialisation 7 F 8 F Expertise 9 F Spring Attack 10 F Whirlwind 11 F 12 W Ambidexterity* 13 W 14 W 15 W Two Weapon Fighting* 16 W 17 W 18 W Imp Two Weapon Fighting* 19 R 20 R 21 F Epic Weap Focus, Epic Weap Spec 22 R 23 R 24 R Toughness* 25 R Defensive Roll 26 R 27 R Great Dex 28 R Improved Evasion 29 R 30 R Great Dex 31 R Epic Dodge 32 R 33 R SC I 34 R SC II 35 R 36 R SC III 37 R SC IV 38 R 39 R SC V 40 R
Dex at every stat increase of course. You need to cross class Intimidate up to 4 for your WM req and Hide and Tumble to 30 by level 31. Rest is up to you.
Oops, too late to edit apparently - forgot you will be into epic rogue levels by the end - your final rogue bonus feat will be at 39, not 37.
You need to switch the Wep Specialization and Expertise feats. You need 4 lvls of Fighter before you can take Specialization. Also, Intimidate is a rogue skill, so you could put 4 pts into that at char creation, no need for cross classing. _________________ If everyone is thinking alike, then someone is failing to think.
Wow, thanks a ton I hadnt thought of doing it that way hehe. I just saw i forgot to add what weapon, how would you change this to add in a Kukri as the wpn spec? since it would require Exotic Wpns as a feat that would make me take 8 fighter to get. Hmm i think i got it,
1 R Dodge 2 R 3 R Weapon Proficiency (Exotic) 4 R 5 F Mobility 6 F Expertise, Spring Attack 7 F 8 F Whirlwind 9 F Weapon Focus (Kukri) 10 F Weapon Specialization (Kukri) 11 F 12 W Weapon Finesse
I went that way because on the server i play on, it takes 10-15 min to get to 12 or so so i thought it would work out
Edited By Seipherwood on 03/23/05 14:22
Weapon Spec doesn't need you to have 4 fighter levels, just to have BAB 4. The 4 R levels at the start give you BAB 3, just one F level after that is enough. But, as the poster can apparently turbo to 12 it doesn't matter much I suppose
Quite right about the Intimidate.
Quite right Thruggsen, I am just so used to starting off with 5 lvls of Fighter when I make Wep Masters, that I got trapped into thinking you needed 4 fighter lvls. Guess that's what happens when you get used to doing something a certain way, lol. _________________ If everyone is thinking alike, then someone is failing to think.
Weapon Spec doesn't need you to have 4 fighter levels, just to have BAB 4.
That's pure nonsense!
You need 4 levels of fighter to get Weapon Specialization.
According to the 3.0 rules, according to the NWN-manual and also in the game!
Well, I'm prepared to believe you if you're that emphatic I wasn't sure myself, checked a couple of online sources, they all say Fighter, Weapon Focus, Base Attack Bonus +4 so I believed them. Now that I check around more exhaustively it seems people are divided on the issue. I apologise for not checking in game first (assuming you are actually right).
On wpn spec....there is a good and simple way to test....make a rogue(or any other no ftr char) and get to BAB 4 ensuring that you have a weapon focus in a weapon, then take a single ftr level preferably at lv 8 12, 16, 20 etc..
I doubt that you will be able to take wpn spec with that single ftr level.
You can't, had this issue when some dude was getting a teaching yesterday. It's level 4 fighter fer sure.
-DaMouse
This very build is right down below your post.
Syrath posted it and with some slight modification can fit what you want.
I hadnt thought of doing it that way hehe. I just saw i forgot to add what weapon, how would you change this to add in a Kukri as the wpn spec? since it would require Exotic Wpns as a feat that would make me take 8 fighter to get. Hmm i think i got it, 