im thinking of something along the lines of 16 bard/14 BG/10 RDD. you think a character like that could get good? so many buffs from song/spells/divine might/divine shield/RDD buffs, that this char has to turn out to be very powerful. i would have taken paladin instead of BG, but changing allignment can be a pain.

lvl up bard while getting power attack and cleave, then become RDD. lvl up RDD until you can get BG. lvl up BG until divine might/divine shield/weapon focus longsword. Then lvl up bard a bit more, then get lvl 10 RDD. then just lvl up bard and BG.

maybe the following stats? and always give bonus stats to cha.

str 14
dex 12
con 14
int 12
wis 10
cha 15

what type of feets do you think i should get?

would still spell be important? cause i plan on using armor, so i may need it to cast spells.

thanks for the help

-Greg
Quote: Posted 05/25/05 16:41:41 (GMT) -- Gregorina

im thinking of something along the lines of 16 bard/14 BG/10 RDD. you think a character like that could get good? so many buffs from song/spells/divine might/divine shield/RDD buffs, that this char has to turn out to be very powerful. i would have taken paladin instead of BG, but changing allignment can be a pain.

lvl up bard while getting power attack and cleave, then become RDD. lvl up RDD until you can get BG. lvl up BG until divine might/divine shield/weapon focus longsword. Then lvl up bard a bit more, then get lvl 10 RDD. then just lvl up bard and BG.

maybe the following stats? and always give bonus stats to cha.

str 14
dex 12
con 14
int 12
wis 10
cha 15

what type of feets do you think i should get?

would still spell be important? cause i plan on using armor, so i may need it to cast spells.

thanks for the help

-Greg

The difficulty i see with this (having tried a monk/blackguard type build, look it up under avado (when they update the links ) is the ab. Cuz bards only max at 15 ab for lv 20 and you are talkin about taking rdd before 20, we get this sorta thing 5bard/7rdd (all in succession. The remaining lvls should be blackguard to get the ab to 4 atts/rd (i think you need 7 lvls of blackguard or so..i remember being really frustrated tryin to tweak that with the monk/bg build, and i believe it was 7 bg pre 20). That leaves 3 post epic bg lvls and the rest of rdd and bard. This build would be very tough! (to answer your question)

Feats? Str will be 22... power attck, cleave, wf(I would take, personally dwarfaxe) improve crit, extra song, divine might, wpn prof (exotic, asap lv3 or 6) and a feat of your choice... heres somethin to think about: your str will be 22 (i would take Great str 1 and take great cleave preepic to get overwhelm crit, but thats me).
post epic: ewf, epic prowess, divine shield, great charisma, overwhelmin crit.. or what ever you want.

Here's the thing i see though: the build is TRYIN to be a str build (rdd lvls), but you are wanting to twist it to a charisma build. If you are serious about the charisma idea, id change the stats to start : str 10! why? rdd will make it 18! this gives you a bunch of stats to add to... charimsa! What this does is postpone some of the feats til after 12 which means you wont have as strong a melee build, but you will get ALOT more charisma. AND!! i would seriously consider the paladin! I know the alignment shift is a pain, but the pally is special, but since you made your stand (which i respect) i will move on. the lvlin should be the same 5bard/7rdd/7bg/1bard and you should still get 4 attacks your str will be 14 before epic though. a minor tradeoff imho.

Hope this helps

peace

Edited By avado on 05/26/05 05:31

i tried this build out in a lvler module, and i got the following ab

38/33/28/25

i think thats pretty good, and with the bard song, it increases all the attacks by two. not to mention the buffs from bard spells. Have you checked this build out? Might give you some ideas.

Steve LOL I noticed lala's build too! Just curious greg, which build did you try? You should post it, either in this thread for touch-ups or in the build forum for posterity!

peace