k guys, noone laugh me out of the building here, but i had this a build of this sort, but i have changed servers and now can revamp. could you masters of numerical value show me a build with an elf or halfling? Ever grateful This is one, not great, but should work It is only a idea that came to my mind, I bet that the great builders here can tweak it a lot.

Monk(6), Rogue(30), Champion of Torm(4), Halfling

STR: 12
DEX: 18 (32)
CON: 12
WIS: 14
INT: 12
CHA: 8

01: Rogue(1): Ambidexterity, Hide(4), Move Silently(4)
02: Rogue(2): (Evasion), Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(5)
03: Monk(1): Weapon Finesse, (Cleave, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist), Discipline(6), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
04: Rogue(3): DEX+1, (Uncanny Dodge I), (DEX=19), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
05: Monk(2): (Deflect Arrows), Discipline(2), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
06: Monk(3): Two-Weapon Fighting, Discipline(1), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
07: Monk(4): Discipline(1), Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spellcraft(5), Tumble(5)
08: Rogue(4): DEX+1, (DEX=20), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
09: Rogue(5): Weapon Focus: Kama, Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
10: Rogue(6): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
11: Rogue(7): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
12: Rogue(8): DEX+1, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, (DEX=21), Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(5)
13: Rogue(9): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
14: Rogue(10): Improved Evasion, Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
15: Rogue(11): Dodge, Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
16: Rogue(12): DEX+1, (DEX=22), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
17: Champion of Torm(1): Discipline(10), Spellcraft(5)
18: Champion of Torm(2): Toughness, Blind Fight, Discipline(1)
19: Champion of Torm(3): (Smite Evil), Discipline(1)
20: Champion of Torm(4): DEX+1, Improved Critical: Kama, (DEX=23), Discipline(1)
21: Rogue(13): Epic Weapon Focus: Kama, Crippling Strike, Hide(5), Move Silently(5), Tumble(5)
22: Rogue(14): Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(5)
23: Rogue(15): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
24: Rogue(16): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, Defensive Roll, (DEX=25), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
25: Rogue(17): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
26: Rogue(18): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
27: Rogue(19): Armor Skin, Epic Dodge, Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spellcraft(5), Tumble(5)
28: Rogue(20): DEX+1, (DEX=26), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
29: Rogue(21): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
30: Rogue(22): Epic Prowess, Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
31: Rogue(23): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
32: Rogue(24): DEX+1, Slippery Mind, (DEX=27), Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Tumble(5)
33: Rogue(25): Great Dexterity II, (DEX=28), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
34: Rogue(26): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
35: Rogue(27): Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
36: Rogue(28): DEX+1, Great Dexterity III, Improved Sneak Attack I, (DEX=30), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
37: Rogue(29): Hide(1), Move Silently(1), Spellcraft(5), Tumble(5)
38: Monk(5): Discipline(18), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
39: Monk(6): Great Dexterity IV, (Knockdown, Improved Knockdown), (DEX=31), Discipline(1), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)
40: Rogue(30): DEX+1, (DEX=32), Hide(1), Move Silently(1)

Max Hitpoints: 348
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 26/24/40 (+4 vs spells)

AB: 26(base) +11(Dex) +3(WF + EWF) +1(Epic Prowess) +1(Halfling) -2Dualwielding = 40AB (Or is it -4 because dualwielding with halfling?).
Naked AC: 35

Discipline 42(43)
Hide 43(54)
Move Silently 43(56)
Spellcraft 20(21)
Tumble 40(51)
+ 131 Skill points to spare

Epic Dodge, 20% speed bonus, Improved KnockDown, Sneak Attack 16d6 (not much, but you have 10 hasted attacks per round)
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Edited By fernandooa on 08/03/05 12:10

Does a halfling get to dualweild kama? I'm trying to picture it, and i know that a halfling cannot use 2 scrims.. just asking. I bet he can but the more I think on it the more I fear he will have a -4/-4 penalty.

Kama is a small (non-tiny) weapon, so halfling can use it the same as a human can wield a longsword.

If you don't care much about xp penalties you could go elf (The xp penalty wont ever be higher than 20%, I think), he will have 1 more AB when dual wielding, 1 less AC, he will be more resistant to knockdown, be better when knocking down and he will have active search on .
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Quote: Posted 08/03/05 14:44:04 (GMT) -- fernandooa

I bet he can but the more I think on it the more I fear he will have a -4/-4 penalty.

Kama is a small (non-tiny) weapon, so halfling can use it the same as a human can wield a longsword.

Yes, that is correct. Medium sized races (everything but halfling and gnome for PC races at least) can dual-wield medium weapons at -4/-4, and light or tiny weapons at -2/-2. For small races (halflings and gnomes), all the size requirements go down by one. So, they can dual-wield light weapons at -4/-4, and tiny weapons at -2/-2.

Steve Kama is a tiny weapon, so no prob. Altho graphics lie a bit it is tiny. And if you do that build, go in 4's of monk and rogur pre epic, f.ex. 12/8 and take CoT epic, you can use your bonus feats for great wisdom, which will boost your ac and monk abilities, like stunning blow!
Quote: Posted 08/03/05 20:47:10 (GMT) -- Grimnir77

Kama is a tiny weapon, so no prob.

Kama is not a tiny weapon. The only tiny melee weapons in the game are the dagger and the kukri. Kama is a light weapon, and you will have a -4/-4 penalty if you dual-wield them as a halfling.

Steve AAAARRRGH!!! I thought kukri when I wrote that post. Sorry. And no, kama is not tiny. I think kukri when I hear halfling dual-wield.

Edited By Grimnir77 on 08/04/05 09:59