ok im looking for a Extremely high Ab Build with Greater smite: Evil if possible using a greatsword or longsword and an absolute must to wear alot of armor high disc spot,listen, and tumble, and of course good buffs would be nice, also a str build
ok im looking for a Extremely high Ab Build with Greater smite: Evil if possible using a greatsword or longsword and an absolute must to wear alot of armor high disc spot,listen, and tumble, and of course good buffs would be nice, also a str build
A couple questions:
1) Do you want this to be playable from level 1 or is it going to be 'born' at level 40?
2) Is an alignment change or changes acceptable?
3) Do you care about XP penalties?
4) Any restrictions with regards to feats and skill point saving?
5) Also, if you want any of the Great Smite feats, that's going to be a huge investment to CHA (minimum 25). Do you want this character to be effective in other melee combat or just as a smiting build? _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
1) Do you want this to be playable from level 1 or is it going to be 'born' at level 40? it starts at 28
2) Is an alignment change or changes acceptable?yes
3) Do you care about XP penalties? not really
4) Any restrictions with regards to feats and skill point saving?nope
5) Also, if you want any of the Great Smite feats, that's going to be a huge investment to CHA (minimum 25). Do you want this character to be effective in other melee combat or just as a smiting build? both
ok im looking for a Extremely high Ab Build with Greater smite: Evil if possible using a greatsword or longsword and an absolute must to wear alot of armor high disc spot,listen, and tumble, and of course good buffs would be nice, also a str build
Hmm,
Moon on a stick then? Probably the closest you can get to something like that is a pal/bard/rdd (since you say alignment change is no problem). 20 pal preepic to give max BAB, then 1 bard, 10 rdd to boost your strength and chr, then all pal with a bard or two and rdd level near the end to skill dump. Alternatively take the 10th rdd last, but your AB will suffer until lvl 40. You're probably not going to be able to get a lot of great smites in without loosing quite a bit of str though - 4 or 5 is probably the max. You'll be stuck with just paladin spells too, but the duration should be good. The 25 CHA requirement for great smite are a pain when you want to keep str high, hence calling on RDD to boost the strength and chr simultaneously.
Quick two second build, note it has horribly low HPs and probably a bunch of other problems I havent noticed:
Paladin(26), Red Dragon Disciple(11), Bard(3), Human
The AB is into normal fighter territory, plus you have bulls, bless, prayer, aid, holy sword/GMW, divine favour, even a +1 from bard song to boost things a bit. You should get to around the +15 mark so just under 60 ab. The damage output possibility is quite high with this, doing about 50 dmg a hit buffed (note all this is approximate ) and the smites should reach 200ish I think (never figured out the great smite calculations), 400ish on a crit, with an AB of 70ish.
Cheers, James
Edited By jwlademann on 09/29/05 14:36
greta smnite is nice but under my radial menu under pally it only shows 3 smite evils
greta smnite is nice but under my radial menu under pally it only shows 3 smite evils
Yep, that's all you get (and that's only if you have the Extra Smiting feat - otherwise you only get one).
Great Smite only puts a multiplier on your Smite damage, it doesn't give you more Smites per day. _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
Ok,i know this will sound wierd but can this build wor keffectvly in a PvP type setting with the highest bein a +4 enhancement? and how can i get more smites with COT?
Bard RDD CoT would do a lot of divine damage with divine Wrath for a number of rounds equal to cha bonus. It really kicks up that AB in the epic levels too.
Ok,i know this will sound wierd but can this build wor keffectvly in a PvP type setting with the highest bein a +4 enhancement?
I don't know. I don't do PvP, so I couldn't say if that would be effective or not.
Quote: and how can i get more smites with COT?
You can't. The most you can get is 3 per day. Well, I think you can get 3 Smite Evil and 3 Smite Good if you have something like Pally/BG, but the most of any one type you can get is three. _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
OK, i was curious b/c i got hit today and it literally said Great smite and it did like over300+ damage
OK, i was curious b/c i got hit today and it literally said Great smite and it did like over300+ damage
Yes, Smite Good/Evil with lots of Great Smite can do a lot of damage. But, as CB has pointed out, only 3 times a day max.
Steve
Smiting isn't really a great idea for PvP IMHO unless the server you're on is restricted alignment wise. If alignment shifts are possible everyone's going to be neutral. For PvM though smiting is very useful if you're playing on a server with evil/good "Bosses" since you can do goodish damage working your way to the Boss and then kill it in 2/3 hits. Something like pal/cot will give you the opportunity to get more Great Smites in and so do more damage with smites but your AB will suffer quite a bit due to not getting the RDD str bonuses.
Edited By jwlademann on 10/01/05 00:16
Well all of you should check out BoW under arena, lol then get back to me
As far as i know, BoW doesn't allow neutral alignments, and jwlademann's build looks good, except that the server will only let you go up to greater smiting 3 with a pally or CoT, and greater smiting 4 with blackguard
I tested it and you can get the AB with divine wrath into the 60's with BoW items. Also, the devcrit dc on such a character can reach 50 with said items and still do plenty of damage with a keen longsword or rapier. Go elf and you get them as bonus feats AND get listen/spot as an "always on" ability. AC tops out around 50 hasted and saving throws are superb.
Deltu, Could you repost with your adjustments?
Ok,are there any high Ab syther builds, one with like weapon master?
1) Do you want this to be playable from level 1 or is it going to be 'born' at level 40? it starts at 28
Probably the closest you can get to something like that is a pal/bard/rdd (since you say alignment change is no problem). 20 pal preepic to give max BAB, then 1 bard, 10 rdd to boost your strength and chr, then all pal with a bard or two and rdd level near the end to skill dump. Alternatively take the 10th rdd last, but your AB will suffer until lvl 40. You're probably not going to be able to get a lot of great smites in without loosing quite a bit of str though - 4 or 5 is probably the max. You'll be stuck with just paladin spells too, but the duration should be good. The 25 CHA requirement for great smite are a pain when you want to keep str high, hence calling on RDD to boost the strength and chr simultaneously.
) and the smites should reach 200ish I think (never figured out the great smite calculations), 400ish on a crit, with an AB of 70ish.
As far as i know, BoW doesn't allow neutral alignments, and jwlademann's build looks good, except that the server will only let you go up to greater smiting 3 with a pally or CoT, and greater smiting 4 with blackguard
I tested it and you can get the AB with divine wrath into the 60's with BoW items. Also, the devcrit dc on such a character can reach 50 with said items and still do plenty of damage with a keen longsword or rapier. Go elf and you get them as bonus feats AND get listen/spot as an "always on" ability. AC tops out around 50 hasted and saving throws are superb.
Deltu, Could you repost with your adjustments?
Ok,are there any high Ab syther builds, one with like weapon master?