I am requesting help with a build that I thought up.

Here is what I have come up with so far:

Gnome (needed racial con bonus w/o racial dex penalty)

Barbarian 24 /SD 10 /Monk6 (alignment changing is not an issue with me)

Str 10
Dex 16 (for light weapon - maybe kamas)
Con 17 (figured to take odd number of Great Con to even it out somewhere along the way)
Int 14 (need those skill points!)
Wis 10
Cha 8

My aim is to have Epic Dodge and Epic Damage Reduction.

Originally, (to have least amount of alignment changes) i considered this lvling progression:

Barb 20 (for max pre-epic BAB)
make sure to meet SD prereq's
SD 10
Barb 4
change alignment
Monk 6

the problem (in the eyes of the beholder) is that If I would take a monk lvl or two or three at the beginning, then I would have free exotic weapon feat for kamas - but then I wouldn't get great BAB from 20 pre-epic lvls of Barbarian.

I am open to any and all suggestions on how to make this work for the best.

regards,
-Chip Problems with this build:

Feat starved - you only have one Epic bonus feat from Barb 24, and Epic Dmg Red costs 3 Epic feats already.

High stat point requirements: 25 DEX Epic Dodge, 21 CON, combine with above.

Xp Penalty all the way through. Sure you don't want to be a STR Half Orc? Alrighty then.



Chipelp3's OMG VVTF Gnome Barbarian Dexer of Tanking Doom: Barbarian(24), Shadowdancer(10), Monk(6), Gnome



STR: 10
DEX: 16 (26)
CON: 18 (21)
WIS: 8
INT: 14
CHA: 8

01: Barbarian(1): Weapon Finesse
02: Barbarian(2): {Uncanny Dodge I}
03: Barbarian(3): Dodge
04: Barbarian(4): DEX+1, (DEX=17)
05: Barbarian(5)
06: Barbarian(6): Mobility
07: Barbarian(7)
08: Barbarian(8): DEX+1, (DEX=18)
09: Barbarian(9): Knockdown
10: Barbarian(10)
11: Barbarian(11)
12: Barbarian(12): DEX+1, Improved Knockdown, (DEX=19)
13: Barbarian(13)
14: Barbarian(14)
15: Monk(1): Weapon Focus: Kama, {Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}, *Alignment Change*
16: Monk(2): DEX+1, {Deflect Arrows}, (DEX=20)
17: Monk(3)
18: Monk(4): Improved Critical: Kama
19: Barbarian(15): *Alignment Change*
20: Barbarian(16): DEX+1, (DEX=21)
21: Shadowdancer(1): Epic Weapon Focus: Kama, {Hide in Plain Sight}
22: Shadowdancer(2): {Darkvision}
23: Shadowdancer(3)
24: Shadowdancer(4): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=23)
25: Shadowdancer(5): {Defensive Roll}
26: Shadowdancer(6)
27: Shadowdancer(7): Great Dexterity II, {Slippery Mind}, (DEX=24)
28: Shadowdancer(8): DEX+1, (DEX=25)
29: Shadowdancer(9)
30: Shadowdancer(10): Epic Dodge, {Improved Evasion}
31: Barbarian(17)
32: Barbarian(18): CON+1, (CON=19)
33: Barbarian(19): Great Constitution I, (CON=20)
34: Barbarian(20)
35: Barbarian(21)
36: Barbarian(22): CON+1, Epic Damage Reduction I, (CON=21)
37: Barbarian(23)
38: Barbarian(24): Epic Damage Reduction II
39: Monk(5): Epic Damage Reduction III, *Alignment Change*
40: Monk(6): DEX+1, (DEX=26)


Stats:
Hitpoints: 616
Skillpoints: 278
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 29/18/27
Saving Throw bonuses: Mind Effects: +4, Traps: +7
BAB: 29
AB (max, naked): 41 (melee), 38 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 28/30
Spell Casting:
Alignment Changes: 3


Skills:
Discipline 43(43),
Hide 10(18),
Move Silently 8(16),
Tumble 40(48)
Spare 177


02: Discipline(5),
07: Discipline(5),
12: Discipline(5),
17: Discipline(5), Hide(10), Move Silently(8), Tumble(20),
22: Tumble(5),
27: Tumble(5),
31: Discipline(10),
32: Discipline(5),
37: Discipline(5),
39: Tumble(10),
40: Discipline(3),


Comments:

Starting stat's changed: WIS -2, CON +1.
Pointless having WIS 10, it does nothing except +1 will save, unless there is some mod specific thing you haven't mentioned.

You're feat starved: so if you want Weapon Focus and Improved Crit in Kama, then you have to take them pre epic which means either Weap Prof Exotic or some Pre-Epic Monk levels. Personally I would never consider wasting a feat when taking some levels early gives it for free (+ Monk levels give good save bonuses (No monk pre epic = 27/15/24 vs 4Monk pre-epic = 29/18/27)

Ends on either an odd CON or DEX.


Overall:
Nothing exceptional, but solid.
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Edited By pocketbeetle on 01/20/06 03:33

thx, pocketbeetle!!

hehehe, great title! =)

Nothing special about the Mod I play on, just if I have wis -1 modifier, it gives me a -1 to AC since the build has monk, correct?

Also, i will be building him all at once, so, I'm not worried about XP penalties at all, even if the lvl progression was "playable" i'm not the type to worry about XP penalties

i went to build it while in the mod, and forgot to get my dex up for the Epic Dodge.... DOH!

Is there anyoneelse who wants to give it a shot?

regards,
Chip
Quote: Posted 01/21/06 08:20:06 (GMT) -- chipelp3

Nothing special about the Mod I play on, just if I have wis -1 modifier, it gives me a -1 to AC since the build has monk, correct?


Nope, negative WIS mod doesn't mean negative AC for monks - just the -1 will save thats it.
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