Hello all. Is it possible to get a a build with 21 monk levels and epic dodge and sc 5?

Couldnt find it... You need the monks improved evasion, gained at lvl 9 plus defensive roll, which shadowdancers gain at lvl 5, or rogues gain as a bonus rogue feat. You also need 25 Dex, and 1 point of tumble.
So if you want most possible monk and still get epic dodge, go monk35/SD5.
Quote: Posted 02/02/06 11:09:57 (GMT) -- tanassi

Hello all. Is it possible to get a a build with 21 monk levels and epic dodge and sc 5?

Couldnt find it...

Yes, it's possible. With 21 Monk levels, though, you have 2 Empty Bodies with 21 Round duration, and is equivalent to SC V.

Possible combos: Monk25/SD5/Rogue10, Monk35/SD5, Monk10/SD5/Assn25, Monk10/SD5/Rogue25.
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE! 35 monk and 5 sd is fine too. 21 was a minimum to use epic monk gloves. Maybe 35 is even better as you gain more ab on your unarmed right?

I always mix up durations, how much is a round? I really like sc5 as its permanent...
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Rygar, great roller of 2's Monk levels do not increase your unarmed AB in any special way (but you do gain BAB ).

A round equals six seconds.
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~ Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss Dex-based Monk 35/SD 5 will give you empty body for 35 rounds twice a day - more than enough for most uses, unless you are on a very rest-restricted server. I would skip SCV - uses too many feats. You could pick up several points of dex (more AB/AC) or some nice feats (armor skin, energy resists, improved SR, etc.).

You might also want to consider Monk 30/Fighter 5/SD 5, which will allow you to pick up WS/EWS and a 6th attack per round. You will still have empty body for 30 rounds twice a day. You do lose 1 point of AC and 1 epic bonus feat, and some SR, but I think it's worth it for the extra damage on a dex build.

TM Here's something I tossed together quickly - not playtested, but should work. Gets Epic Dodge at level 27, reaches Monk 21 at level 32. No SC V, but like I said, you shouldn't need it. Empty Body is undispellable, BTW. You can get Monk 21 earlier, but it delays ED and/or EWS. You can also take 1 fewer fighter levels, just take the 5th one on a general feat level, but it means dropping one of the general feats for a monk bonus feat (probably lose Epic Prowess and pick up Imp. SR, or something similar).

Monk(29), Fighter(6), Shadowdancer(5), Dwarf (Human will also work, loses 40 HP, gains a feat and 43 skillpoints). Elf would be nice, but will have an XP penalty.

STR: 10
DEX: 18 (32)
CON: 14
WIS: 14
INT: 10
CHA: 6

Hitpoints: 452
Skillpoints: 170
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 27/24/33
BAB: 26
AB (max, naked): 41 (melee), 38 (ranged)
AC (naked): 38
Skills: Discipline 43(43), Hide 43(54), Move Silently 43(54), Tumble 40(51), 1 left over.

L01: Monk(1): Luck of Heros, M: (Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist)
L02: Monk(2): M: (Deflect Arrows)
L03: Fighter(1): Weapon Focus: Unarmed, Weapon Finesse
L04: Monk(3): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
L05: Monk(4)
L06: Monk(5): Blind Fight
L07: Monk(6): M: (Knockdown, Improved Knockdown)
L08: Monk(7): DEX+1, (DEX=20)
L09: Monk(8): Called Shot
L10: Monk(9): M: (Improved Evasion)
L11: Monk(10): M: (KI Strike +1)
L12: Monk(11): DEX+1, Improved Critical: Unarmed, M: (Diamond Soul), (DEX=21)
L13: Monk(12): M: (Diamond Body)
L14: Monk(13): M: (KI Strike +2)
L15: Monk(14): Toughness
L16: Monk(15): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
L17: Monk(16): M: (KI Strike +3)
L18: Fighter(2): Dodge, Mobility
L19: Fighter(3)
L20: Fighter(4): DEX+1, Weapon Specialization: Unarmed, (DEX=23)
L21: Fighter(5): Epic Weapon Focus: Unarmed
L22: Fighter(6): Epic Weapon Specialization: Unarmed
L23: Shadowdancer(1): SD: (Hide in Plain Sight)
L24: Shadowdancer(2): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, SD: (Uncanny Dodge I), (DEX=25)
L25: Shadowdancer(3)
L26: Shadowdancer(4)
L27: Shadowdancer(5): Epic Dodge, SD: (Defensive Roll)
L28: Monk(17): DEX+1, (DEX=26)
L29: Monk(18)
L30: Monk(19): Epic Prowess
L31: Monk(20)
L32: Monk(21): DEX+1, (DEX=27)
L33: Monk(22): Great Dexterity II, (DEX=28)
L34: Monk(23)
L35: Monk(24)
L36: Monk(25): DEX+1, Great Dexterity III, Armor Skin, (DEX=30)
L37: Monk(26)
L38: Monk(27)
L39: Monk(28): Great Dexterity IV, (DEX=31)
L40: Monk(29): DEX+1, (DEX=32)

Hope this helps.

TM Thanks, that looks really nice.

And with that many monk levels I can use the nice gloves, so ab wont be that of a problem. I didnt know empty body was that cool. Most of the classfeat-based actions are pretty poopy.